You are MAD------it just goes up and down for FFS!
That's more than the Eiffel Tower does, (except of course the ordinary lifts).
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Brighton i360 construction update.
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That's more than the Eiffel Tower does, (except of course the ordinary lifts).
Garage_Doors
Originally the Swankers
Engineering techniques of a bygone age were to very much over engineer structures, these days there are built to a price so the bare minimum of materials will be used. the gauge of metals, strength of fasteners,
Regardless of how long the public want it, the design of the construction will only be for a definitive number of years.
Psychobilly freakout
HellBilly
Bold Seagull
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Not sure this is strictly true. The need for economising on material is often outweighed by the fear of litigation for any component failure due to the design spec. If anything buildings and structures in todays age are over engineered to ensure no possibility of failure whether through extreme weather conditions such as max snow and wind loadings, sacrificial tolerances for fire resistance etc. We have greater capabilities of making calculations, but we are also far more liability conscious and risk averse.
If it is maintained and looked after, then it can last well beyond its designed for lifespan.
clippedgull
Hotdogs, extra onions
£850,000 paid to Brighton & Hove City Council by the i360 
It's starting to pay its way!
http://www.brightoni360.co.uk/latest-news/blog/one-year-on-progress-for-the-site-and-the-city/
It's starting to pay its way!http://www.brightoni360.co.uk/latest-news/blog/one-year-on-progress-for-the-site-and-the-city/
Disgusting decision. Nothing like a council corrupting the market !
Bold Seagull
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Hang on, it was always going to close in May 2016, they had a 5 year planning permission. The council were up front from the start that given it was in a conservation area next to listed buildings, the wheel was only ever going to be temporary. All they've done now is refuse the next application to extend it's lifespan. Hardly disgusting when they told the same thing back in 2011 when they limited it to 5 years in the first place!
The reason they have rejected an application to extend is to protect their own ( possibly taxpayers funded ) project. The council planning officers recommended allowing it - the councillors have used politics to come to the decision. A dirty state of affairs.
surrey jim
Not in Surrey
£850,000 paid to Brighton & Hove City Council by the i360
http://www.brightoni360.co.uk/latest-news/blog/one-year-on-progress-for-the-site-and-the-city/
Does this mean we are getting the seafront monorail
Bold Seagull
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Right from the moment of granting temporary status for it they said it would go if the i360 was secured. All they've done is kept their word! Planning officers only have planning policy guidance and the local plan to recommend on, the councillors have the ability to overrule them (and do at least once every committee I've ever attended). It's not a dirty state of affairs at all. Just following through on what they originally said.
The owners have the right to appeal to the Planning Inspectorate which they no doubt expected and prepared for. Had to go through the motions of the local planning application first to get to that point though.
Maybe you've got a point, but since that's our money they're protecting, isn't that a good thing?
If, as you suggest, the right decision was to keep it, when would it be the right decision to let it go - or would it be kept for the next 50 years?
Doesn't planning permission for these things take into account what's already here, meaning that planning for the i360 was only given because they knew the wheel was coming down? So now that the i360 is going ahead, isn't it the right decision to not allow similar structures?
CP 0 3 BHA
Well-known member
..and as the decision was made on political rather than technical planning grounds there is a high likelihood they will win.
Go and ask Tory councillors about the deal Theobald and Kitcat did - 90% of them are fuming about it. I'm sure the 50 employees of the wheel will be overjoyed to lose their jobs because the council are favouring a private business. Personally I'll be boycotting the sham and will encourage others not to use the i360. Dirty, corrupt politics were involved in this deal.
Tom Bombadil
Well-known member
Bold Seagull
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Well I can ask them but Geoffrey Theobald is their leader, so I assume they can fume at him all they like. Are the remaining 10% just Carol and Geoff by any chance?!
As for dirty corrupt politics, I hardly think asking the Tory group about that is the best place to start.
surrey jim
Not in Surrey
Bold Seagull
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Brighton and Hove Planning Committee decisions probably have one of the highest turnover rates at appeal than anywhere. They are frequently getting their knuckles wrapped by the Planning Inspectorate for cases being given to them that never should be. Mainly because it is a minority council and there is always so much political point scoring.
It will depend on how the decision was reached on what aspects they've hung their refusal on. All the above being said, I have seen officer recommendations overturned at committee having the committee decision upheld at appeal.