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Blooming Marvellous
Jan 9, 2005
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Brighton
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HawkTheSeagull

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Jan 31, 2012
9,122
Eastbourne
As times are changing so do our laws need to change

What laws exactly ? What the 2 extremists did has broken many, many laws and will get life in prison when/if they are caught too.

Yes indeed,but im sure we can do without the likes of the muslim doctors that tried to blow up Glasgow airport,or the countless done for sex crimes

2 things in the last 10 years in the UK, including Lee Rigby's murder then its 3. It isnt just Muslims that commit crimes. Oh and for the sex crimes, a large number of male, quite probably Christian, TV personalities have been found guilty of sex offences too. Oh and then you have the Catholic Church on that matter.
 




Dandyman

In London village.
Just heard about this when I got in from work. One of the dead is a friend of my younger sister and her family who live in the Paris suburbs.

Disgusting theocratic barbarism.


#Je suis Charlie.
 


Green Cross Code Man

Wunt be druv
Mar 30, 2006
19,723
Eastbourne
What laws exactly ? What the 2 extremists did has broken many, many laws and will get life in prison when/if they are caught too.



2 things in the last 10 years in the UK, including Lee Rigby's murder then its 3. It isnt just Muslims that commit crimes. Oh and for the sex crimes, a large number of male, quite probably Christian, TV personalities have been found guilty of sex offences too. Oh and then you have the Catholic Church on that matter.
Don't forget the London bombings 2005.
 


HawkTheSeagull

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Jan 31, 2012
9,122
Eastbourne
Don't forget the London bombings 2005.

Not sure how I could really, we can also include the failed attempt 2 weeks after too. Still only a single figure amount - there isnt that many things and when they are carried out, they are done by crazed individuals which there are a minority of in our society and they are any sex, any religion, any belief etc.

Extremism on the whole of any topic is the issue, that is what as society we need to stand up to and the scenes on Twitter of people doing just that tonight are incredible. There must be hundreds of thousands of people out in support tonight - which surely shows that they cant win.
 












Soulman

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Oct 22, 2012
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Meanwhile Andy Choudary shows his support for the murderers.
http://dailycaller.com/2015/01/07/radical-islamic-cleric-defends-paris-shootings/

And trouble in Turkey as well.
An 'English-speaking' female suicide bomber blew herself up in a police station in Istanbul today, killing one officer and injuring another.
The woman, whose identity has not been released, reportedly walked into the building in the historic Sultanahmet district claiming she had lost her purse.
Istanbul governor Vasip Sahin told Turkish TV that the woman spoke English with a "thick accent" but her nationality remains unknown.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...killing-one-and-wounding-another-9961275.html
 


1234andcounting

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Mar 31, 2008
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To ascribe brutality and lack of humanity to one religion is completely counter-factual. Anders Breivik killed 69 people, mainly if not totally people of the same nationality and religion as him. That is not in any sense to condone what has happened today nor does it make me an apologist for these events.

There are presumably some people who post regularly on this site who think it is ok to attack and abuse other human beings merely for supporting a different sports team. It is the way the human psyche works. To assume otherwise is just plain wrong. And that should not be taken to mean that all human beings are merciless killers; there are countless examples of selflessness and humanity, probably more than of inhumanity and murder.

Were we posting on this site 70 years ago (excuse the anachronism) people would no doubt be speculating how an ostensibly Christian country (and home to many of the leading figures of the Enlightenment) could be responsible for the industrial murder of more than 10 million people.

People, particularly young men, like violence. It has a sort of glamour. Groups on the fringes of society, criminal gangs, political groupings, are attractive to these people (see IRA, Sendero Luminosa, goodness knows how many others) and therefore motives and actions will become conflated.

For all those who have posted, I would ask: "What have you done today to make the world a better place, today. What are you going to do to make the world a better place tomorrow." Given the revulsion to violence expressed, I would assume that any response will not contain the threat of violence.
 






Seagull by the Sea

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May 22, 2013
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Here is exactly what will happen next: A vigil will take place with some pretty candles. The government will then tell us all what a tragedy it is and that we are all uniting in our thoughts and sympathy with the families. In the meantime, government officials will make a point that this is is not TRUE Islam and that most Muslims are good people. We must all unite in multiculturalism. After a few weeks it's all forgotten about and back to business as usual. I'm afraid it's time for Governments to realize that these so called fanatics are spoiling it for ALL Muslims and in the long run it is now best to clamp down on Islam and its backward and sick ideology.

How ridiculous!

There are tens of millions of Muslims in the world and you want to punish them all for a tiny percentage who use Islam as an EXCUSE to kill?

Shall the Americans persecute all the cults in the US?

Did you think all Irish people should be persecuted because of the IRA bombings?

Why not go after all the Christians as the KKK kill blacks in their name?
 




Seagull by the Sea

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May 22, 2013
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Well what a surprise. Terrible for all those murdered. We knew this was going to happen, could happen in many areas where these nutters take over areas. I suppose more pandering will follow so as not to upset the backward ideology.

The only thing that is backward here is your un-educated, ill thought and ridiculous 'dig' at a religion you cannot possibly know very well or else you would not poke fun at it.

Well done
 


Dandyman

In London village.
http://www.isb.org.uk/violent-extremism-and-terrorism/


We have always had a clear and unequivocal stance against terrorism and those who advocate violence in our midst. Islam has never condoned the taking of life in this way. It is unislamic.
Terrorists at home or abroad, and their supporters in our midst, have a lot to answer for. They have taken the lives of innocents, they have spread mistrust and suspicion, given implicit support to the voices of Islamophobes and bigots, not to mention the financial cost of their acts.

We support measures to tackle, prevent and stop terrorism, but are also critical of some of the initiatives and approaches that have been undertaken in this regard. Terrorism inspired by al-Qaeda can be best defeated in Britain by engaging and winning the support of local Muslim communities to help squeeze out the voices of violence and hatred. This requires using sensitively thought out approaches, language and tactics and ensuring that the civil liberties of our nation are not trampled upon.
 






Soulman

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Oct 22, 2012
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The only thing that is backward here is your un-educated, ill thought and ridiculous 'dig' at a religion you cannot possibly know very well or else you would not poke fun at it.

Well done

"Poke fun at it". What are you on about, not a laughing matter. I stated these nutters, are they not?, are THESE nutters, THESE nutters not following the backward ideology drafted centuries ago, it a "dig" at that part of the religion......no "fun" is it oh patronising educated one.
 


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