Virgo v Stockdale

Dan Aitch · Apr 22, 2015

Stockdale is current (ly enjoying the "no beer less than 48 hours before a game" rule, allegedly - I have no proof and it's meant as a joke). I'm Team Stockdale.

I imagine a lot of people are tonight relaxing more than they have in a while, based on the team finally being virtually guaranteed of safety. Letting off steam/stress is to be expected I'd say.

Leave them to it.

Gazwag · Apr 22, 2015

tigertim68 said:
Oh great 2 saves , do you want me to list all his mistakes that have cost goals and points . By the way he is meant to be a keeper LOL and make the odd save , and in Stockdale case it is the odd save

A Stockdale thread is like porn to you isn't it

HantsSeagull · Apr 22, 2015

all very unseemly but i am with Stockdale. made some mistakes as all keepers do but kept us in a lot of games too.

£1.99 · Apr 22, 2015

Funnily I was called a legend by someone i don't even know or follow on twitter today.

Icy Gull · Apr 22, 2015

Both of them are looking like dicks in this little spat.

Thunder Bolt · Apr 22, 2015

Miami Seagull said:
I don't disagree and the mistakes were listed in another thread

Having said that, Stockdale does seem extremely sensitive to criticism, especially where he has clearly been at fault.

He was not at fault for the Rhodes foul.

DarrenFreemansPerm · Apr 22, 2015

tigertim68 said:
Oh great 2 saves , do you want me to list all his mistakes that have cost goals and points . By the way he is meant to be a keeper LOL and make the odd save , and in Stockdale case it is the odd save

And you'll also find that goalkeepers concede goals. We all know you don't like Stockdale, and as is the case you continue to beat the drum about it. It's boring pal, we all know he hasn't been perfect but what's the point in casually discarding the good stuff he's done just to bang on about his mistakes.

GreersElbow · Apr 22, 2015

tigertim68 said:
Oh great 2 saves , do you want me to list all his mistakes that have cost goals and points . By the way he is meant to be a keeper LOL and make the odd save , and in Stockdale case it is the odd save

I assume you called for PIG to be let go when he made howlers (Let's not re-write history here, LOL.)

Sheebo · Apr 22, 2015

Prince Monolulu said:
I am unaware of the facts surrounding PIG, but have heard the usual tittle-tattle. Overall they are similar in many respects with iffy kicking, but if we're getting down to nitty-gritty, wouldn't things have been different if PIG hadn't dropped his clanger v Brum?

Keepers are expected to make 2 or 3 errors a season so I think that's harsh. Stockdale has made at least 10 I think that have lead to goals or been poor in goals we've conceded. All opinions but I don't think he's done well at all...

Questions · Apr 22, 2015

Daddies_Sauce said:
"Convincing Celtic to splash out £1.5 million for him is up there, I think, with the greatest confidence tricks of all time."

I guess Fulham must be saying the same about us splashing the cash on Stockdale

The Fulham fans I know all rated him. Not the very best but pretty good.

Sheebo · Apr 22, 2015

Thunder Bolt said:
It was a deflection from Stephens which distorted the flight of the ball.

Deflection or no deflection it wasn't traveling fast and he got 2 hands to it but couldn't handle the spin and palmed it into the goal. Don't believe everything he says on Twitter - he's got too much to say at the mo IMO...

Prince Monolulu · Apr 22, 2015

sheebo said:
Keepers are expected to make 2 or 3 errors a season so I think that's harsh. Stockdale has made at least 10 I think that have lead to goals or been poor in goals we've conceded. All opinions but I don't think he's done well at all...

Aaah well, I think he's won us many more points than he's lost us this season. Magnified by a lack of goals scored, I think he has played a major part in keeping us up overall. I'll take that.

Sheebo · Apr 22, 2015

Oh well at least people are putting their respective opinions out there in a fairly nice manner for this debate - exactly what NSC should be...

I do find some people talk players up a lot more while they're playing for us and then quickly change their opinion when they move on (I think we are all guilty of this to different degrees).

I don't think people give Kusch the credit he deserved as was v solid on the whole. Stockdale hasn't been yet although I do think he has potential to do well - and he obviously cares about his job a lot...

Sheebo · Apr 22, 2015

Prince Monolulu said:
Aaah well, I think he's won us many more points than he's lost us this season. Magnified by a lack of goals scored, I think he has played a major part in keeping us up overall. I'll take that.

I must say your 'magnified by a lack of goals scored' point is an extremely good one and one I hadn't particularly considered pal so fair play for that :thumbsup:

Hyperion · Apr 22, 2015

W*****s, the pair of them.

Soulman · Apr 22, 2015

DarrenFreemansPerm said:
So we didn't benefit from Stickdale saving a penalty against Birmingham at 1-1, or a point blank save at HT against Derby when it was0-0?

I seem to remember he made a great save at Charlton, and another decent one as well.

Soulman · Apr 22, 2015

sheebo said:
I must say your 'magnified by a lack of goals scored' point is an extremely good one and one I hadn't particularly considered pal so fair play for that

I do think that had we put the ball in the net occasionally, his great saves would be remembered, not his gaffs.

Shatner's Bassoon · Apr 22, 2015

sheebo said:
Oh well at least people are putting their respective opinions out there in a fairly nice manner for this debate - exactly what NSC should be...

I do find some people talk players up a lot more while they're playing for us and then quickly change their opinion when they move on (I think we are all guilty of this to different degrees).

I don't think people give Kusch the credit he deserved as was v solid on the whole. Stockdale hasn't been yet although I do think he has potential to do well - and he obviously cares about his job a lot...

Completely agree with this. Personally I don't think Stockdale is a bad keeper, but I think he's had a poor season on the whole, and in my opinion his defenders on here are - perhaps understandably - overcompensating for the criticism he's received.

But I really get annoyed with some of the revisionism on TK: he was superb for us and the idea that he was anything other than excellent is misguided.

Thunder Bolt · Apr 22, 2015

sheebo said:
Deflection or no deflection it wasn't traveling fast and he got 2 hands to it but couldn't handle the spin and palmed it into the goal. Don't believe everything he says on Twitter - he's got too much to say at the mo IMO...

I was at the game, he was positioned for the shot, it deflected off of Stephens heel, through Stockdale trying to adjust his arms to Pearce, who nodded it in.

I'm not stupid enough to believe players or pundits but form my own opinion.

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