Farage stays as UKIP leader after resignation rejected

vegster · May 14, 2015

daveinprague said:
Not a bad start to the next 5 years of laughing at them, and its only week 1

I'm starting to admire Carswell a little bit for his actions in refusing to take on unnecessary staff just to spend the cash windfall they have been given. However, what chance does a man of principles have in UKIP given the Farage resignation farce ? I think he might jump and sit as an independent putting UKIP right back to square one, then we will have 5 more years of Nige desperately keeping the plates spinning while holding on to supreme power. ... it's going to be a fun filled few years !

Deleted member 22389 · May 14, 2015

UKIP are at a crossroads. People who now believe in the party, want to take it further and appeal to more people.
UKIP are attracting a younger audience too http://www.youngindependence.org.uk/

daveinprague · May 14, 2015

bashlsdir said:
UKIP are at a crossroads. People who now believe in the party, want to take it further and appeal to more people.
UKIP are attracting a younger audience too http://www.youngindependence.org.uk/

Eh? On the basis of UKIP having a Young Kipper page? If thats the case, Im guessing all the parties are attracting younger audiences.

daveinprague · May 14, 2015

vegster said:
I'm starting to admire Carswell a little bit for his actions in refusing to take on unnecessary staff just to spend the cash windfall they have been given. However, what chance does a man of principles have in UKIP given the Farage resignation farce ? I think he might jump and sit as an independent putting UKIP right back to square one, then we will have 5 more years of Nige desperately keeping the plates spinning while holding on to supreme power. ... it's going to be a fun filled few years !

Nailed on.

Think I saw something about Carswell staying UKIP, which will make it interesting.

Deleted member 22389 · May 14, 2015

daveinprague said:
Eh? On the basis of UKIP having a Young Kipper page? If thats the case, Im guessing all the parties are attracting younger audiences.

You have always said UKIP is full of old people, so I'm showing you a different side to UKIP.
Also the opportunities for young people to progress through UKIP if they have an interest in Politics are far greater than the other parties, because UKIP are still a relatively small party.

daveinprague · May 14, 2015

Its not old people ive said UKIP is full of

Mo Gosfield · May 14, 2015

Thunder Bolt said:
Nigel Farage has become a "snarling, thin-skinned, aggressive" man who is turning Ukip into a "personality cult", the party's campaign chief has said in a blistering attack on his leader.

Ah...that little frisson of envy that we all need in our lives. If he had a fraction of the charisma of Nige then UKIP would be all the better for it.
Farage is a magnificent beast, prowling and growling, pouncing and flouncing and charming and smarming. He carries the party alone, bestriding the political world like a colossus. Singularly, the most exciting thing around amongst the faceless party line-towers.
The king is dead. Long live the king.

alfredmizen · May 14, 2015

daveinprague said:
Its not old people ive said UKIP is full of

Of course not, otherwise you'd be a member :lolol:

daveinprague · May 14, 2015

alfredmizen said:
Of course not, otherwise you'd be a member

Im old, not senile :smile:

vegster · May 14, 2015

Mo Gosfield said:
Ah...that little frisson of envy that we all need in our lives. If he had a fraction of the charisma of Nige then UKIP would be all the better for it.
Farage is a magnificent beast, prowling and growling, pouncing and flouncing and charming and smarming. He carries the party alone, bestriding the political world like a colossus. Singularly, the most exciting thing around amongst the faceless party line-towers.
The king is dead. Long live the king.

And therein lies the key problem, it is a personality cult, Farage can't let go of complete control in case he is marginalised. He is there best hope and their Achilles heel.

Soulman · May 14, 2015

daveinprague said:
Nailed on.

Think I saw something about Carswell staying UKIP, which will make it interesting.

I thought you stated that Carswell was leaving ukip
You seemed to be getting quite excited, best to wait and see really.

Tom Bombadil · May 14, 2015

vegster said:
And therein lies the key problem, it is a personality cult, Farage can't let go of complete control in case he is marginalised. He is there best hope and their Achilles heel.

Totally agree with this. UKIPs problem is Farage won't tolerate any threat to his domination of the party, so you see this pattern of senior party members being driven out by Chairman Nige and the brown-nosing sycophants he surronds himself with.

daveinprague · May 14, 2015

Soulman said:
I thought you stated that Carswell was leaving ukip
You seemed to be getting quite excited, best to wait and see really.

There were indications he might, he still may leave. At the moment, I would rather he stayed. I see some comedy ahead.
One seat....No seats... not a big deal really, but internal power struggles are always interesting, and in UKIP's case, always potentially funny.

Machiavelli · May 14, 2015

vegster said:
I'm starting to admire Carswell a little bit for his actions in refusing to take on unnecessary staff just to spend the cash windfall they have been given. However, what chance does a man of principles have in UKIP given the Farage resignation farce ? I think he might jump and sit as an independent putting UKIP right back to square one, then we will have 5 more years of Nige desperately keeping the plates spinning while holding on to supreme power. ... it's going to be a fun filled few years !

It's fun to watch the UKIP post-election fall-out but I too find Carswell admirable, unlike the rest. I have no time for the libertarian right but there are certain figures, Carswell and also one of our MEPs Daniel Hannan, who articulate their case in a genuine, engaged, forceful yet intelligent manner.

Buzzer · May 14, 2015

Will Nigel Farage re-resign? The crowd say Bo Selectah.

Pavilionaire · May 14, 2015

Herr Tubthumper said:
Instead of trying to beat the Germans, why not simply join them?

Who do you think you are kidding, Mr Hitler?...

TomandJerry · May 14, 2015

"Ukip in turmoil as former party treasurer says Farage should resign

Nigel Farage, the Ukip leader, is facing a “coup” after the party’s treasurer and one of its biggest donors called for a leadership contest.

Stuart Wheeler, who has given hundreds of thousands of pounds to the party, said he would like to see Farage stand aside and face a vote. The Ukip leader briefly stepped down after failing to win his South Thanet target seat but then withdrew his resignation four days later, saying the national executive had overwhelmingly wanted him to stay.

Speaking on BBC Radio 5 Live, Wheeler said it was “time for something quieter” in terms of the Ukip leadership. He said he thought Farage was exhausted, in pain from back problems and should have remained resigned at least until a new contest could be held in the autumn."

TomandJerry · May 14, 2015

Double post!

surrey jim · May 14, 2015

TomandJerry said:
"Ukip in turmoil as former party treasurer says Farage should resign

Nigel Farage, the Ukip leader, is facing a “coup” after the party’s treasurer and one of its biggest donors called for a leadership contest.

Stuart Wheeler, who has given hundreds of thousands of pounds to the party, said he would like to see Farage stand aside and face a vote. The Ukip leader briefly stepped down after failing to win his South Thanet target seat but then withdrew his resignation four days later, saying the national executive had overwhelmingly wanted him to stay.

Speaking on BBC Radio 5 Live, Wheeler said it was “time for something quieter” in terms of the Ukip leadership. He said he thought Farage was exhausted, in pain from back problems and should have remained resigned at least until a new contest could be held in the autumn."

Bbc are hardly impartial when commenting on UKIP considering one of their manifesto pledges was to significantly cut down the organisation.

daveinprague · May 14, 2015

surrey jim said:
Bbc are hardly impartial when commenting on UKIP considering one of their manifesto pledges was to significantly cut down the organisation.

Eh? What has the BBC got to do with a UKIP internal dogfight? With one MP, im fairly sure the BBC couldnt give a toss what UKIPs pledges were anyway.

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