1066familyman
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See why Gerrans worked for Matthews at Branbanste Pijl - perhaps he didn't want big Phil to take the mick out of him twice in one week 
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Tyrone Biggums
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Gerrans was to the front of the Peleton for the last 40km. Hardly call that being negative. He made his move and was shot after that.
That's why Jelle Vanendert rode right past that group of 3 riders into second and they couldn't go with him.
That's why Jelle Vanendert rode right past that group of 3 riders into second and they couldn't go with him.
1066familyman
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Gerrans was to the front of the Peleton for the last 40km. Hardly call that being negative. He made his move and was shot after that.
That's why Jelle Vanendert rode right past that group of 3 riders into second and they couldn't go with him.
Well then he didn't ride very intelligently then did he.
Had the same numbers as BMC at the pointy end of the race and look what they did with what they had.
Sorry, take more than that to turn me into a Gerrans fan.
I watched much of that on FF.
Naturally I had more than half an eye on Garmin.
They seemed to start the Sky role, which GreenEdge finished off.
I was a bit gutted Nav didn't get into that 40km break, as that was the move I wanted.
He's never going to be able to push on in the last 5kms.
As said 1066, AVV has carried on his 'form' from the Worlds.
'Well I'm going to sit here, and if nobodies going to carry me to the win, I'm certainly not going to do anything that might help others'.
Nice move by BMC to soften up MK at the start of the Cauberg, great stuff by Pip to finish it off.
I've now got to stop myself betting on us winning 26-0 tomorrow in order to have some pennies for Wednesday.
Naturally I had more than half an eye on Garmin.
They seemed to start the Sky role, which GreenEdge finished off.
I was a bit gutted Nav didn't get into that 40km break, as that was the move I wanted.
He's never going to be able to push on in the last 5kms.
As said 1066, AVV has carried on his 'form' from the Worlds.
'Well I'm going to sit here, and if nobodies going to carry me to the win, I'm certainly not going to do anything that might help others'.
Nice move by BMC to soften up MK at the start of the Cauberg, great stuff by Pip to finish it off.
I've now got to stop myself betting on us winning 26-0 tomorrow in order to have some pennies for Wednesday.
Indurain's Lungs
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I'm with 1066, although Gerrans is nowhere near the whinging tool that Evans is, he is quite annoying at times.
To be fair though, that Gilbert move was difficult for anyone to go with - a new record for the cauberg (1.23).
1066familyman
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Exactly! Poor Greenedge tatics with what they had, and Gerrans and AVV are one and the same rider. Get all they deserve.
None of that should detract though from superb BMC tactics and good win for Gilbert as a result.
Having said all that, AVV at Roma Maxima this year working with little Pozzivivo was a totally different rider and a pleasure to see.
Tyrone Biggums
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Gerrans isn't as good a rider as Gilbert is the simple explanation. Gilbert's record speak for itself.
If Gerran's third place wasn't much good then anyone behind him must be a real scrub of a rider
1066familyman
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Yes, just read about that Cauberg record. Impressive stuff! He certainly loves that climb! The old one two with Sammy Sanchez was a masterstroke.
Kwia really needed a stronger team (didn't help when he shouldered Tony Martin into a hedge at about 40km to go
) and better legs. Then we would have had a race because he has more about him in terms of desire than Gerrans and AVV put together.
Tyrone Biggums
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I'm still perplexed by Gerrans being negative when he made a move to try and make the winning break, Gilbert counter attacked and he couldnt go with him.
1066familyman
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Gerrans isn't as good a rider as Gilbert is the simple explanation. Gilbert's record speak for itself.
If Gerran's third place wasn't much good then anyone behind him must be a real scrub of a rider
'Tis a fair cop. Someone said earlier about Zubeldia abandoning, something along the lines of - "don't worry, he'll still be fine for another anonymous 8th palce at Tdf". It's funny because it's true, but how many riders would give their right arm for a Top Ten Tdf spot.
I also don't know why I speak ill of Gerrans as apparently he speaks highly of me
But he is annoying to watch nonetheless 
1066familyman
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Simples...unintelligent riding again
To be honest I think Gilbert's move was so strong, perfectly timed and such a team tactical masterstroke that no one could live with it anyway. It's just the way Gerrans along with AVV are so happy to sit up so soon to preserve a sprint for a podium spot time and time again rather than go shit or bust for one last attempt to go for the win. If you haven't got the legs, you haven't got the legs, but it's the repetition of this scenario that gets so frustrating to many fans.
Indurain's Lungs
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Simples...unintelligent riding again
To be honest I think Gilbert's move was so strong, perfectly timed and such a team tactical masterstroke that no one could live with it anyway. It's just the way Gerrans along with AVV are so happy to sit up so soon to preserve a sprint for a podium spot time and time again rather than go shit or bust for one last attempt to go for the win. If you haven't got the legs, you haven't got the legs, but it's the repetition of this scenario that gets so frustrating to many fans.
I mostly agree with you 1066 but the points system has a lot to answer for. Your value is dependent on it and podiums mean points.
Glanders
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Not sure I agree about Valverde being a negative rider - much as I dislike him, his murky past and all that which they represent, I don't see him as negative. As one tiny example, he looked pretty aggressive in the Basque Country and I can't see how someone with his palmares can have got it all by watching and wheel-sucking?
The fella standing there clearly wasn't German/a TT enthusiast/an OPQS supporter.Kwia really needed a stronger team (didn't help when he shouldered Tony Martin into a hedge at about 40km to go
He looked like World Champions fall at his feet every day.
I'm not a AVV fan, in the same way I'll never be a Contador fan.
His performance in the World's certainly make it easier to stick the boot in now.
Yet another Net App Fuji 650c on ebay, from the Midlands!!
It is the Sora, carbon forked one, but this is all very odd.
It is the Sora, carbon forked one, but this is all very odd.
Motogull
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I've been using GG a bit lately. Whatever it takes.
Motogull
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I'd been thinking that too.
Well done on the ton. I could only sneak out Friday, bu planned a longer ride tomorrow. Rain might stop that.
Indurain's Lungs
Legend of Garry Nelson
I'm off out with fellow L2B participants tomorrow. My mate has put the slicks on his mountain bike and the three of us are going to do a 42 mile loop!
I've allowed 4 hours so as not to dishearten him before the big day!
I've allowed 4 hours so as not to dishearten him before the big day!
Zukey Seagull
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Oh yeah I forgot at the time...
...you're taking the piss now
Nope, just know you lot are all experienced riders. Well you know what your doing.
You should start charging.