Does anyone here think Trump is a safe bet for Pres?

Raleigh Chopper · Oct 9, 2016

As someone said on the TV a couple of days ago, it doesn't really matter too much the machine that runs behind the scenes will stop any nonsense going on, they only want your vote at the moment but once in they will be a figurehead only.
Obama would have been a brilliant President if only he was actually allowed to do what he wanted to, instead he became one of the best speech makers I have heared in my life.
President of USA is too big a gig for one man to cope with.

Stat Brother · Oct 9, 2016

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The Clamp · Oct 9, 2016

Raleigh Chopper said:
As someone said on the TV a couple of days ago, it doesn't really matter too much the machine that runs behind the scenes will stop any nonsense going on, they only want your vote at the moment but once in they will be a figurehead only.
Obama would have been a brilliant President if only he was actually allowed to do what he wanted to, instead he became one of the best speech makers I have heared in my life.
President of USA is too big a gig for one man to cope with.

Quite correct. I actually think Clinton would be more destructive in the WH, she seems to command a troop of flying monkeys to intimidate and silence any critics/whistle blowers. She is sinister and nasty.
Trump is a goon. An idiot who I am sure has power but will be very controllable as a President. Corporate America will not allow him to make any meaningful decision, that includes pushing the button. In order to keep the cash rolling in they need people alive!

nicko31 · Oct 9, 2016

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37601422

He's well on truely on Trumps payroll..

ozzygull · Oct 9, 2016

nicko31 said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37601422

He's well on truely on Trumps payroll..

To be honest I don't like either of those ********s but when I have been queuing for the train after a game at the Amex, I have overheard many conversation between men about the the women (sl*gs) they shagged. What comes out of some men's mouths is vile. So I think he is just being honest.

Blue Valkyrie · Oct 9, 2016

nicko31 said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37601422

He's well on truely on Trumps payroll..

Not sure about that, but maybe if Farage and Trump both published their tax returns ( spot the common theme... ) we may all be able to see where their bankroll comes from...

Aveacarlin' · Oct 9, 2016

Slimy peroxide perm-a-tan c u n t. His wife should be ****ing ashamed of herself too coming out and defending this two bob prick.

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Raleigh Chopper · Oct 9, 2016

The Clamp said:
Quite correct. I actually think Clinton would be more destructive in the WH, she seems to command a troop of flying monkeys to intimidate and silence any critics/whistle blowers. She is sinister and nasty.
Trump is a goon. An idiot who I am sure has power but will be very controllable as a President. Corporate America will not allow him to make any meaningful decision, that includes pushing the button. In order to keep the cash rolling in they need people alive!

Spot on, there is a huge difference.
Clinton is a seasoned politician with bags of experience and her husband behind her.
Trump is a businessman, the two don't mix, if Trump wins and then finds out the way he has to behave and the decisions he needs to make he will be miles out of his depth and will be drowned by the people who hide in the shadows and make all the decisions.
If he tries to go against the grain he will get battered by both sides of the political divide and a car crash of monumental proportions will follow.

RexCathedra · Oct 9, 2016

I have a question for our American cousins:-

'Why didn't Ms Rice run for President'?

As a Republican, she's got two issues -- she's black, and she's not hawt . She also has a functional brain.

Palin and Bachman didn't pose those problems. And I'm not sure Rice is enough of a hater.

Buzzer · Oct 9, 2016

The Clamp said:
Quite correct. I actually think Clinton would be more destructive in the WH, she seems to command a troop of flying monkeys to intimidate and silence any critics/whistle blowers. She is sinister and nasty.
Trump is a goon. An idiot who I am sure has power but will be very controllable as a President. Corporate America will not allow him to make any meaningful decision, that includes pushing the button. In order to keep the cash rolling in they need people alive!

I think that's a pretty good summary of my views too.

RexCathedra · Oct 9, 2016

She is sinister and nasty.

Buzzer said:
I think that's a pretty good summary of my views too.

Assuming arguendo you're old enough to remember Reagan and Nixon, what do you see that makes Mrs. Clinton seem a worse bet than those two?
Or as far as 'sinister' goes, the first President Bush, who was actually head of the CIA?

The moderate progressivism? She's hardly Michael Foot with tits, now is she?
Because we know it can't be her gender. Not a leg to stand on with that argument after Mrs. Thatcher.

Buzzer · Oct 9, 2016

RexCathedra said:
As a Republican, she's got two issues -- she's black, and she's not hawt . She also has a functional brain.

Palin and Bachman didn't pose those problems. And I'm not sure Rice is enough of a hater.

Can I ask, is mainstream US as depressed about this election as the rest of the world?

beorhthelm · Oct 9, 2016

symyjym said:
Here we go, Bill Clinton rape allegations. From Trumps twatter feed.

the classic Trump double down. problem is i dont think alot of the normal Republicans will fall for this line, he risks alienating the traditional voters.

fat old seagull · Oct 9, 2016

Everytime I watch Trump, I recall viewing 'The Omen'!

Stat Brother · Oct 9, 2016

RexCathedra said:
As a Republican, she's got two issues -- she's black, and she's not hawt . She also has a functional brain.

Palin and Bachman didn't pose those problems. And I'm not sure Rice is enough of a hater.

Don't let Fiorina off the hook, cos she's a proper fookin whack-job.

Other than those 2 obvious flaws I don't know much about her, beyond being Dubbya's right hand man.
Wiki says she's never married, and is sketchy about her family life, so I guess she might have the trifecta American Republicans really aren't ready for.
A massive shame, as I don't remember her as anything other than the brain's of Bush's operation.
Chances are she'd have kicked the other Republican's and Hillary all over the country.

Buzzer · Oct 9, 2016

RexCathedra said:
Assuming arguendo you're old enough to remember Reagan and Nixon, what do you see that makes Mrs. Clinton seem a worse bet than those two?
Or as far as 'sinister' goes, the first President Bush, who was actually head of the CIA?

Nixon was way before my time. I remember seeing on the news the Jimmy Carter-brokered deal at Camp David but I would have been about 8 or 9 at the time. No idea why that news story stuck with me when i was so young.

But Clinton is far worse in my opinion. Nixon was an odd one - he was a long-time supporter of women's rights and was a driving force in some key anti-discrimination legislation that helped the emancipation of black Americans. He had huge character defects and his position of power let his paranoia destroy him and rightly so but I would say he thought that because what he believed in was right that he could do anything to see that through.

Reagan did many bad things too but he (along with Nixon) had an ideology that they believed in, he was the driving force in winning the Cold War and because of that we no longer have the Berlin Wall. Both entered politics having a purpose, I see nothing from Clinton except the lust for power and a stack of dead bodies, dubious decisions, funny money and outright lies.

WATFORD zero · Oct 9, 2016

Raleigh Chopper said:
Trump is a businessman,

If Trump is a businessman, then I'm the Dalai f***ing Lama :lolol:

RexCathedra · Oct 9, 2016

I see nothing from Clinton except the lust for power and a stack of dead bodies, dubious decisions, funny money and outright lies.

The candidates on offer who didn't have that on their resume is....

Stato · Oct 9, 2016

Buzzer said:
Reagan did many bad things too but he (along with Nixon) had an ideology that they believed in, he was the driving force in winning the Cold War and because of that we no longer have the Berlin Wall. Both entered politics having a purpose, I see nothing from Clinton except the lust for power and a stack of dead bodies, dubious decisions, funny money and outright lies.

The stack of bodies are presumably from when Clinton did a secret deal with Iran to exchange hostages and money for arms and re-routed the money to those trying to bring down a democratically elected government in South America. Oh no she didn't did she? That was Reagan. But what about her illegal carpet bombing of Cambodia that created the circumstances for the Khmer Rouge takeover and subsequent genocide. Oops, sorry, that was Nixon.

Reagan of course won the Nobel Peace Prize for his commitment to ending the Cold War, No? That was the real driving force Mikhail Gorbachev. Reagan and Thatcher's policies toward the USSR were exactly those of their predecessors over previous decades. The change in approach came from Gorbachev, not from 'We begin bombing in five minutes' Ronnie.

Its funny that those in politics that we agree with have a purpose, but those we disagree with just a lust for power.

symyjym · Oct 9, 2016

Stato said:
The stack of bodies are presumably from when Clinton did a secret deal with Iran to exchange hostages and money for arms and re-routed the money to those trying to bring down a democratically elected government in South America. Oh no she didn't did she? That was Reagan. But what about her illegal carpet bombing of Cambodia that created the circumstances for the Khmer Rouge takeover and subsequent genocide. Oops, sorry, that was Nixon.

Reagan of course won the Nobel Peace Prize for his commitment to ending the Cold War, No? That was the real driving force Mikhail Gorbachev. Reagan and Thatcher's policies toward the USSR were exactly those of their predecessors over previous decades. The change in approach came from Gorbachev, not from 'We begin bombing in five minutes' Ronnie.

Its funny that those in politics that we agree with have a purpose, but those we disagree with just a lust for power.

Yep Gorbachev was a good leader. I don’t think there were any skeletons in his closet or any controversy on his watch.

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