[Film] Post Film Discussion Star Wars TLJ WARNING don’t view will contain spoilers

Guy Fawkes · Dec 19, 2017

looney said:
I have a question.

Was Chewbacca roasting a Porg on the fire? I would say so as thats why the other porg was weepy. Therefor letting all those critters on the Falcon was Chewies food supply.

Ben Shapirro pointed that there is no gravity in space so you cant bomb a dreadnought like a WW2 bomber. Missed that one.

Yeah because that was the major flaw with that scene and absolutely nothing to do with the woman's attempt to get the controls to drop the bombs whilst the bomb bay doors were open and leaving her exposed to the vacuum of space during that particular scene :lol:

Taybha · Dec 19, 2017

looney said:
I have a question.

Was Chewbacca roasting a Porg on the fire? I would say so as thats why the other porg was weepy. Therefor letting all those critters on the Falcon was Chewies food supply.

Ben Shapirro pointed that there is no gravity in space so you cant bomb a dreadnought like a WW2 bomber. Missed that one.

The Bombs were wrapped in a paper cup so they became twice as deadly and paper cups as we know CAN defy gravity and are able to travel huge distances and injure nay annihilate unsuspecting footballers .

beorhthelm · Dec 19, 2017

looney said:
I have a question.

Was Chewbacca roasting a Porg on the fire? I would say so as thats why the other porg was weepy. Therefor letting all those critters on the Falcon was Chewies food supply.

Ben Shapirro pointed that there is no gravity in space so you cant bomb a dreadnought like a WW2 bomber. Missed that one.

Star Wars has always been WWII fighters in space - you've seen Squadron 633 and noted the, er, similarities?

the real issue not being discussed is where on that island did Chewie find materials for a fire... only one tree as i recall.

Papa Lazarou · Dec 19, 2017

looney said:
I have a question.

Was Chewbacca roasting a Porg on the fire? I would say so as thats why the other porg was weepy. Therefor letting all those critters on the Falcon was Chewies food supply.

Ben Shapirro pointed that there is no gravity in space so you cant bomb a dreadnought like a WW2 bomber. Missed that one.

beorhthelm said:
Star Wars has always been WWII fighters in space - you've seen Squadron 633 and noted the, er, similarities?

the real issue not being discussed is where on that island did Chewie find materials for a fire... only one tree as i recall.

Why do you think it looks so whittled?

looney · Dec 19, 2017

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BBassic · Dec 19, 2017

StonehamPark said:
Very average.
Disappointed with Luke's ending. I wanted him to go out swinging and remembered as a martyr.

Leia's ending should have been out in space, not the weird Superman scene we saw.

Pretty horrible use of forced comedy too with the little furby/gremlin things.

Intrigued by the kid swinging the broom at the end though, who was he, where is he. Guessing he would be the main part of the story for the next trilogy.

My personal preference:
Empire
Hope
Rogue One
Return of the Jedi
TFA
TLJ
The unspoken three

I'm not sure it was anything too integral to future films to be honest.

We'd just had Luke's line about how he's not the last Jedi; obviously we're then shown Rey immediately after but I got the impression that the shot of the kid with the broom (which felt very Fantasia to me) was just telling the audience that there are potential Jedi all over the galaxy.

ChickenBaltiPie · Dec 20, 2017

(7.5/10) OK, so, having seen it once, it made a very good initial impact on me, I was hooked, I wasn't bored for a second, I was keen to follow the story, see where it'd go, see what was coming next, and I was on the edge of my seat. The action sequences were awesome, obviously. I didn't feel it was that much worse than the last tbh, it ticked all the right boxes and there was everything there that's required for a SW's film BUT there were too many of those pretty jarring, kind of indulgent, prequelesque moments and dumb ****ing humour (all in an attempt to understandably satisfy a younger audience) that I didn't appreciate and threw my enjoyment off. Hate seeing all the original characters getting killed off one by one too but well, with Carrie and Harrison there was obviously no choice and Disney are on a mission to cleanse the old and bring in the new, so just gotta take that on the chin. Leia in space? Why the **** didn't they just let her die at that point? That would've been perfect! (I think they just needed her to create the link to Luke's final appearance and now we're gonna get some shit CGI Leia in E9) and where was Luke's final, kick ass moment? (That fleeting engagement with Ren wasn't enough) What about Rey's training and the development of their relationship? He best be some amazingly powerful force ghost in the next one! Snoke?! What a massive disappoint his character was, (fingers crossed he can transfer his consciousness (à la Dark Empire) or something otherwise what was the point in him exactly? We learnt nothing about him) and all that shit at the casino, YUK! The annoying ****ing fish faced creatures luke was shacked up with and the thing with the tits he was milking. The cave, what did we learn from that? All could and should have been left out but I just feel like these directors sometimes get carried away with their own egos, trying far to hard to put their own stamp on things, differentiate themselves and **** about with the content too much, (without really adding anything) stretching things in an attempt to be 'creative' for the sake of it. Their influence should be invisible and respectful of the performers, the story and the script, then they have done their job. I could go on, there were other issues but I'm not sure we'd pick any other film apart in the same way and scrutinise every little detail looking for flaws so it seems kinda unfair and I WANT TO LIKE IT!! I'm in the something (bad) is better than nothing camp and these new films are CONSIDERABLY better than the prequels so I'm not distraught. Maybe it's Disney's influence and their desire to make spin off after spin off and sell endless toys. Didn't mind the little porgs though tbh, haha, and they seem to be getting a lot of hate. BB8 on the ATST though, unforgivable! Whether a second viewing will help me get past these issues or just find more we shall see.

Empire
Hope
Return
Rogue
Awakens
Last
Revenge
Clone
Menace

Tyrone Biggums · Dec 20, 2017

Rohan Ince's Python said:
Think people are disappointed because there is no big reveal as has been speculated for the last 2 years

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They are disappointed because there's so many dumb moments in the film.

Rian Johnson is to Star Wars as Paul Feig is to Ghostbusters.

StonehamPark · Dec 20, 2017

Tyrone Biggums said:
Rian Johnson is to Star Wars as Paul Feig is to Ghostbusters.

I just don't have a clue why they didn't get Lawrence Kasdan (and J.J) to write the whole trilogy.
He wrote; Empire, RotJ and Raiders of the Lost Ark. Fantastic films.

Yet they paid the guy who wrote Brick and Looper to give it a crack. Not awful films, but nothing on Kasdan.

Tyrone Biggums · Dec 20, 2017

StonehamPark said:
I just don't have a clue why they didn't get Lawrence Kasdan (and J.J) to write the whole trilogy.
He wrote; Empire, RotJ and Raiders of the Lost Ark. Fantastic films.

Yet they paid the guy who wrote Brick and Looper to give it a crack. Not awful films, but nothing on Kasdan.

The thing is it's such a simple process to avoid so much of what's wrong with these films.

Rey is a Mary Sue, way over powered to the point of being ridiculous. As they leave no explanation or back story as to why instead just inserting a character like that into the story it looks a lot like lazy average script writing.

All that could have avoided if they simply had a character like Maz Kanata, a character with a vast knowledge of the universe and finger on the pulse of information talk about a prophecy of someone who would be the most powerful of all and so on and so on.

Instead they didn't bother with that kind of development because it's Disney and Kathleen Kennedy is an agenda driven ****.

Washie · Dec 20, 2017

looney said:
I have a question.

Was Chewbacca roasting a Porg on the fire? I would say so as thats why the other porg was weepy. Therefor letting all those critters on the Falcon was Chewies food supply.

Ben Shapirro pointed that there is no gravity in space so you cant bomb a dreadnought like a WW2 bomber. Missed that one.

With a ship that size, there would be gravity, just not as much as there was in the film.

Chicken Run · Dec 20, 2017

It’s interesting reading all the views so far, it seems the plus 40’s are love or disappointed simple as that and the younglings seem impressed? One thing to come out of this is everyone’s general positivity towards Rouge One! Let’s hope they don’t **** up next years Ham Solo story!

Seaber · Dec 20, 2017

Regarding that kid at the end with the broom, did he pick it up with his hand or use the force? I seem to have seen different things each time I went to see it.

Jam The Man · Dec 20, 2017

Seaber said:
Regarding that kid at the end with the broom, did he pick it up with his hand or use the force? I seem to have seen different things each time I went to see it.

It moved to him, so I guess he is Force sensitive. His name is Temiri Blagg

Jam The Man · Dec 20, 2017

Papa Lazarou said:
Why do you think it looks so whittled?

I thought it looked like the Jedi insignia:

Half Time Pies · Dec 20, 2017

I think it was a really good film. I think its suffering critically a little due to being the middle film of the sequel trilogy and therefore designed as a bridging film to set the scene for the next episode and probably future trilogies. If you remember this was also the case when Empire came out it was originally welcomed with an array of mixed, lukewarm, and indifferent reviews, but has since grown in esteem, becoming the most critically acclaimed film of all.

I suspect we will only have a full appreciation of this film once it is viewed in the context of all three films.

As for those that are criticising factual/ scientific inaccuracies.....the whole premise of star wars, the Jedi religion and people being able to move objects due to an invisible force isn't scientifically plausible!

Weststander · Dec 20, 2017

We saw it yesterday. Loved by the adults, tolerated/liked by the kids who so far haven't got into Star Wars.

I'd rate it as middling as Star Wars films go. It wasn't as compelling and lacked the magic of the original 3 movies and Rogue One. But IMO it was far more memorable than the Ewen McGregor films.

Spicy · Dec 20, 2017

I absolutely loved it and want to see it again. Nice tribute to Carrie Fisher at the end.

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