Palace supposedly make derisory bid for Dunk

ThePaddy · Jun 15, 2016

crabface said:
Id take Knockaert over Zaha any day. Also you ever heard of a chap called Vicente?

As long as you realise that nobody else in football would, that's fine. Knockaert is a decent player but he's not even close to Wilf's standard.

crabface said:
So from what you are saying is that Knockaert and Zaha are the same? Zaha has yet to perform consitently in the league, 2 goals and 1 assist last season. On making the step up to a top 10 team was knowhere near the top 11, let alone the bench.

Zaha scored 5 goals and got 7 assists last season. 2 goals and 5 of those assists were in the PL. It's true that he struggled at United but that had far more to do with his mental state than his natural ability.

CPFC G · Jun 15, 2016

crabface said:
So from what you are saying is that Knockaert and Zaha are the same? Zaha has yet to perform consitently in the league, 2 goals and 1 assist last season. On making the step up to a top 10 team was knowhere near the top 11, let alone the bench.

Difference between the two is Zaha has spent the last 3 seasons playing in a top league and Knockaert has not.

crabface · Jun 15, 2016

ThePaddy said:
As long as you realise that nobody else in football would, that's fine. Knockaert is a decent player but he's not even close to Wilf's standard.

All you lot are like a broken record.

Grombleton · Jun 15, 2016

ThePaddy said:
As long as you realise that nobody else in football would, that's fine.

I assume you've canvassed opinion from everyone in the football world?

ThePaddy · Jun 15, 2016

Machiavelli said:
Knockaert and March are there or thereabouts, but both have a better end product. It took a while to come through with March who, incidentally, came through our Academy via Lewes and, I understand, having left yours when much younger.

Neither Knockaert or March are even close to being as good as Zaha in terms of pace and trickery. Wilfried had the most successful dribbles of any player in the Premier League last season.

albionite · Jun 15, 2016

Can we just ban these boring palace tw*ts they really do add nothing to these threads

ThePaddy · Jun 15, 2016

Grombleton said:
I assume you've canvassed opinion from everyone in the football world?

It's probably a safe assumption that most people in football would prefer to have the best dribbler in the country in their side than a decent Championship winger with no Premier League experience.

albionite said:
Can we just ban these boring palace tw*ts they really do add nothing to these threads

Sorry for going off topic, boss. If we're talking about Lewis Dunk, I think he's a decent player but his disciplinary record is very questionable. He seems to lose his head with startling regularity. If Pardew wants him then I'm sure he'll be playing for us in August but I'd rather we signed someone a little closer to Scott Dann's standard.

crabface · Jun 15, 2016

ThePaddy said:
Neither Knockaert or March are even close to being as good as Zaha in terms of pace and trickery. Wilfried had the most successful dribbles of any player in the Premier League last season.

But no end product, rendering it kind of pointless.

Grombleton · Jun 15, 2016

ThePaddy said:
It's probably a safe assumption that most people in football would prefer to have the best dribbler in the country in their side than a decent Championship winger with no Premier League experience.

I'm looking at some stats that shows he isn't the best, but he is the player with the most unsuccessful dribbles.

ThePaddy · Jun 15, 2016

crabface said:
But no end product, rendering it kind of pointless.

That's absolute nonsense. Palace scored from a league high 19 goals from corners last season, many of which were won by Zaha. He won 4 penalties last season, all of which were scored. Looking just at the goals and assists tally doesn't tell the whole story when he offers so much more than that. However, even if you look at it from a purely statistical view, his 5 goals and 7 assists makes him a 'more effective' player than Hazard, Mirallas, Pedro, Shaqiri, Bojan, Willian, Navas, Sterling, etc.

bhanutz · Jun 15, 2016

ThePaddy said:
That's absolute nonsense. Palace scored from a league high 19 goals from corners last season, many of which were won by Zaha. He won 4 penalties last season, all of which were scored. Looking just at the goals and assists tally doesn't tell the whole story when he offers so much more than that. However, even if you look at it from a purely statistical view, his 5 goals and 7 assists makes him a 'more effective' player than Hazard, Mirallas, Pedro, Shaqiri, Bojan, Willian, Navas, Sterling, etc.

You certainly would get many pens if he left...although Bolasie seems to love to dive too!

Blue Valkyrie · Jun 15, 2016

albionite said:
Can we just ban these boring palace tw*ts they really do add nothing to these threads

This !

Triggaaar · Jun 15, 2016

ThePaddy said:
If Pardew wants him then I'm sure he'll be playing for us in August

Like no one else gets a say, it's all down to your sad tw@ of a manager.

ThePaddy · Jun 15, 2016

Grombleton said:
I'm looking at some stats that shows he isn't the best, but he is the player with the most unsuccessful dribbles.

He has the most dribbles overall by far at 7.2 dribbles per game. The next highest is Riyad Mahrez with 6.3 and then Martial with 5.9. Wilf tops the charts for succesful dribbles, again Mahrez is in second place.

bhanutz · Jun 15, 2016

ThePaddy said:
That's absolute nonsense. Palace scored from a league high 19 goals from corners last season, many of which were won by Zaha. He won 4 penalties last season, all of which were scored. Looking just at the goals and assists tally doesn't tell the whole story when he offers so much more than that. However, even if you look at it from a purely statistical view, his 5 goals and 7 assists makes him a 'more effective' player than Hazard, Mirallas, Pedro, Shaqiri, Bojan, Willian, Navas, Sterling, etc.

BTW you are embarrassing yourself now!

DarrenFreemansPerm · Jun 15, 2016

6 assists in 65 games, terrifying stats :shit:

albionite · Jun 15, 2016

ThePaddy said:
He has the most dribbles overall by far at 7.2 dribbles per game. The next highest is Riyad Mahrez with 6.3 and then Martial with 5.9. Wilf tops the charts for succesful dribbles, again Mahrez is in second place.

Who cares if he dribbles on his chin. Piss off from our board

ThePaddy · Jun 15, 2016

Triggaaar said:
Like no one else gets a say, it's all down to your sad tw@ of a manager.

Unfortunately with the way football is going at the moment, clubs like Brighton don't really get a choice when clubs like Palace come along. The gulf in finances between PL clubs and Championship clubs is so huge that keeping hold of your best players will be almost impossible.

bhanutz · Jun 15, 2016

ThePaddy said:
Unfortunately with the way football is going at the moment, clubs like Brighton don't really get a choice when clubs like Palace come along. The gulf in finances between PL clubs and Championship clubs is so huge that keeping hold of your best players will be almost impossible.

Clubs like Palace...You lot spend millions, don't care then go into Admin and start again!

Don't be so patronising you ****ing wanker!

Finchley Seagull · Jun 15, 2016

ThePaddy said:
Unfortunately with the way football is going at the moment, clubs like Brighton don't really get a choice when clubs like Palace come along. The gulf in finances between PL clubs and Championship clubs is so huge that keeping hold of your best players will be almost impossible.

The arrogance is hilarious. Firstly, it's hard to see why you're on here. All a bit sad. Secondly, the idea that you can just click your fingers and a player will come is laughable, especially as other teams are interested (much bigger teams than Palace).

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