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Someone else or one of the previously hurt will get hurt again or for the first time.
Doc Lynam
I hate the Daily Mail
- Jun 19, 2011
- 7,201
13 wins from 17! Interestingly who could beat us with the 1st team we have? Boro is the only one who's looks a class apart; but getting Bong and or LR back are crucial. Get a Glenn Murray in and then....
saafend_seagull
Well-known member
Current prediction
Bolton - 3
Hull - 0
Cardiff - 1
Bristol c - 3
Leeds - 3
Preston - 1
Shef w - 1
Reading - 3
Mk Dons - 3
Burnley - 1
Birmingham - 1
Forest - 1
Fulham - 3
QPR - 1
Charlton - 3
Derby - 1
Mboro - 0
28 points and 81 total which would put us probably 5th with our goal difference.
Doc Lynam
I hate the Daily Mail
- Jun 19, 2011
- 7,201
Think we might get more out of Cardiff, Preston, Birmingham and Preston; this is being optimistic but it wouldn't surprise me if we managed to turn them over.
Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
A very pessimistic set of predictions, I suggest.
darkwolf666
Well-known member
Win 7, draw 8 - turn 3 of those draws into wins and we are right in the mix.
However, I think we will get beat by someone else other than the top 2 somewhere along the way - but then so will the others!!!
DarrenFreemansPerm
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Peter Grummit
Well-known member
This. The thread title makes no sense with 17 games left. Bolton have picked up and will come with renewed confidence. They have had an horrendous time, but still have some decent players and a manager who knows which way is up.
Let's not get ahead of ourselves.
PG
Totally ... we're 20/1 for a reason. Those odds can change dramatically over a short period as I hope they will but right now we're good outsiders
I can't see anything other than a 4th/5th right now but if we can come away from Hull without losing I'd certainly re-assess (assumes we beat Bolton)
How many points do you think we can get from Preston, 6?
It's in our hands (up).
warmleyseagull
Well-known member
Technically, it is 'not in our hands' as even winning all our games could in theory mean we finish behind Boro and Hull if they will all bar the game against Albion given their far superior GD. Certainly MKD could do us a favour tonight.
More realistically, consider the likely points target required: in 5 of the last 10 seasons, 86 has been enough. IMO, given the competitive nature of the top part of Championship this season, and the tendency for teams to ebb and flow at different times, it is likely that 86 will be enough this season.
This means Derby & SW need to win 11 games out of 16; possible (Watford came from a long way back last season) but unlikely, particularly with managerial upheavals at Derby. I think it is down to the top 4. Albion need 10 wins; the top three could make 86 with 9 wins and a few draws. (there are ways of getting to 86 without this number of wins but requires more draws than likely).
Potentially this makes for a closer finish than we have seen for many seasons; Boro and Hull are in driving seat but Burnley & Albion have recovered after dodgy period. Albion have the advantage of nearly a complete team either recently signed or coming back from injury at a time when games come thick and fast. It probably needs Hull & Boro to lose some of their defensive solidity to overtake them, but this could be very exciting.
More realistically, consider the likely points target required: in 5 of the last 10 seasons, 86 has been enough. IMO, given the competitive nature of the top part of Championship this season, and the tendency for teams to ebb and flow at different times, it is likely that 86 will be enough this season.
This means Derby & SW need to win 11 games out of 16; possible (Watford came from a long way back last season) but unlikely, particularly with managerial upheavals at Derby. I think it is down to the top 4. Albion need 10 wins; the top three could make 86 with 9 wins and a few draws. (there are ways of getting to 86 without this number of wins but requires more draws than likely).
Potentially this makes for a closer finish than we have seen for many seasons; Boro and Hull are in driving seat but Burnley & Albion have recovered after dodgy period. Albion have the advantage of nearly a complete team either recently signed or coming back from injury at a time when games come thick and fast. It probably needs Hull & Boro to lose some of their defensive solidity to overtake them, but this could be very exciting.
BensGrandad
New member
What you are missing is that apart from us beating the teams above us they will be also playing each other so maximum points for all teams apart from against us is not possible.
Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
Yes, indeed, but Midds have a game in hand so can afford to lose their game with Hull, and still finish above us along with Hull.
BensGrandad
New member
So ideally we need Middlesbro to win all of their games bar against us and we aim for 2nd and forget 1st place, all really hypothetical as no team will win all their games and not drop a point.
GT49er
Well-known member
All hypothetical. All we really need to worry about at the moment is beating Bolton.
BensGrandad
New member
So true; its an old cliche but take every game as it comes.
dadams2k11
ID10T Error
Bolton wont be the given that many people expect. Like someone else said, they have picked up their game. They nicked a win in the 92nd minute last Sat which will breed confidence. Saying that, if we are on our game then i think most teams will struggle against us.
