To be fair, it wasn't difficult Hyypia was just dreadful.
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To be fair, it wasn't difficult Hyypia was just dreadful.
Machiavelli
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vs Leeds and, even more so, vs Ipswich.
Would you go that far?
ps I'm not totally against your analysis on the SH vs CH reigns
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
We haven't received all the money from player sales yet. The wages BILL last season was £20M without transfers.
Justice
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Not sure Mourhino would of done much better with what he had available. Last season was all about staying up not playing perfect football.
I was defending the players, not the manager. I don't see your point. Yes, it is likely that they won't be played together and assuming no striker comes in (though I'm sure one will) that would be Hughton's fault for not playing to the strength of his squad.
It may well have been boring to watch under CH but he knew that he needed to keep clean sheets to pick up points, given that the strikers were not scoring. Enough points to stay up. That preserved championship status which gives us a platform to move on from.
if we had been relegated we would never be able to attract decent players for this coming season, so job done as far as I'm concerned. lets wait and see who he brings an and see where this season takes us.
I think that part of the problem was the relative lack of strength in the squad, no?
I'm not for a moment suggesting that an attack force of O'Grady, Baldock and Colunga would be enough to get us up, I was defending them against the accusation of being rampantly shit.
Diego Napier
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For God's sake man! Don't let facts get in the way!
It's the opinion of the NSC Brain's Trust that he's sh*t at Championship level.
This is all academic anyway.
If Hughton starts the first 4 months of the season, how he finished the last 4 months, he'll be gone by November anyway.
If Hughton starts the first 4 months of the season, how he finished the last 4 months, he'll be gone by November anyway.
GT49er
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But COG and Baldock were playing together when Baldock got injured and out for the rest of the season.
durrington gull
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Lge1 strikeforce - woeful
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COG hasn't played in L1 for 4 years. Colunga doesn't play in L1 , he plays in La Liga. Baldock was L1 last season. He scored more than Calum Wilson. Who is now a Prem League striker. Gulp.
Bombadier Botty
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Advance apologies: Jamie Murphy sounds like he could be a hit, but maybe we don't do hits.
severnside gull
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You're probably right but given that 1901 club members pay an average 2 to 3 times as much as standard STH's (plus the £500 enrolment fee for the majority) the loss of a couple of thousand of them with resultant lounge closures and further job losses is probably enough of a potential jolt to get the money men worrying.
That's not trying to big-up 1901 members btw. The vast majority seem to be normal fans rather than your archetypal "corporates" and therefore more likely to give up the somewhat dubious benefits of membership than those relative few whose seats are paid for by a company.
Hampster Gull
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Good point. I wll ignore the fact Ulloa scored 16 for us in his best year and fall into line.
COG OUTTTTTTTT
Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
Leo scored virtually a goal every 2 games for us.
COG's record at Championship and below is worse than a goal every 4 games.
Hampster Gull
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I would take Ulloa any day over COG. That said COG has proved he can score at this level. Could be an important cog as part of wider team of strikers.
Fair enough. You could go one step further and say the difference between Murray and Ulloa and O'Grady is that the former two had Lopez, Buckley, Lua Lua, Noone, E. Bennett, Bridge, Vicente, Barnes etc to cross the ball. O'Grady had a an albeit promising Teixeira, a converted striker, a diminished Lua Lua and a pushed up right back for support.
I genuinely think Ulloa and Murray would have struggled in this team (although probably not to the same extent as they're both better players that O'Grady). One of the real issues with having no real width or creativity is your strikers immediately look sh!t.
Ninja Elephant
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- Feb 16, 2009
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LuaLua is rubbish and so is COG.
Get rid of both of them asap and replace them with footballers of talent and quality. Anyone can see Colunga is a good player, but we need to be smarter about how he is used. LuaLua and COG are just rubbish footballers, they won't be a part of a team pushing for promotion from this league.
Get rid of both of them asap and replace them with footballers of talent and quality. Anyone can see Colunga is a good player, but we need to be smarter about how he is used. LuaLua and COG are just rubbish footballers, they won't be a part of a team pushing for promotion from this league.