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Next Labour Leader

Next Labour Leader

  • Gordon Brown

    Votes: 1 0.8%
  • Moira Stewart

    Votes: 4 3.3%
  • Tony Blair

    Votes: 4 3.3%
  • Ant and Dec

    Votes: 4 3.3%
  • David Milliband

    Votes: 14 11.6%
  • Ken Livingstone

    Votes: 1 0.8%
  • Olly Murs

    Votes: 4 3.3%
  • Neil Kinnock

    Votes: 2 1.7%
  • Jonathan Ross

    Votes: 1 0.8%
  • Alan Curbishley

    Votes: 6 5.0%
  • Andy Burnham

    Votes: 20 16.5%
  • Yvette Cooper

    Votes: 12 9.9%
  • Zayn Malik

    Votes: 3 2.5%
  • Liz Costa

    Votes: 11 9.1%
  • Keith Chegwin

    Votes: 14 11.6%
  • John Fashanu

    Votes: 5 4.1%
  • Lulu

    Votes: 6 5.0%
  • Keith Vaz

    Votes: 2 1.7%
  • Ed Balls

    Votes: 2 1.7%
  • Ruel Fox

    Votes: 5 4.1%

  • Total voters
    121


piersa

Well-known member
Apr 17, 2011
3,155
London
whoever it is, by the time the next election comes around, they will be fodder for the tories.
 






Stato

Well-known member
Dec 21, 2011
6,588
Whoever it is they need a new face that is not associated with the previous administration. The tories made the mistake of going with Hague and Howard (with the faceless IDS in between) and everyone who disliked the Major government remembered them and they couldn't shake the baggage. Milliband and Balls have suffered from the same perceptions. They would be wise to let Harman temp for a little while whilst they stage manage the likely candidates to come in with a blaze of publicity and a new vigour, just like Blair and Brown did after John Smith's death. Whoever it is also needs to have proper PR as a cornerstone of their offer. The public can see that it is now a necessity and it would be a useful way of distinguishing themselves from the Blairites who failed to deliver it for selfish reasons. It is also vital for the continuation of the union that all those of all political hues who did not support the SNP in Scotland (half the country) are given some representation in a UK parliament.

Personally I like Stella Creasy, but this is only because she likes the Wedding Present and made Toby Young look stupid on Newsnight.
 








Mo Gosfield

Well-known member
Aug 11, 2010
6,285
Huffington Post says that David Miliband will be returning to lead Labour......interesting.

Another massive mistake if Labour turn to the ' other Miliband '....although people avoid the subject, the inescapable fact is that this country will not elect a Jewish PM. Disraeli was the last ( 1880 ) and although he had Jewish parents, he switched to Anglican faith. Hundreds of talented Jews have been politicians since then but none have risen to the highest office. In more recent times we have had...Keith Joseph, Leon Brittan, Nigel Lawson, Gerald Kaufman, Michael Howard, Malcolm Rifkind etc...all very capable but none considered.
Its a sensitive subject but there is a level of subdued anti-semitism at the highest levels of government and the people in control will never allow it to happen.
 


alfredmizen

Banned
Mar 11, 2015
6,342
Huffington Post says that David Miliband will be returning to lead Labour......interesting.

Another massive mistake if Labour turn to the ' other Miliband '....although people avoid the subject, the inescapable fact is that this country will not elect a Jewish PM. Disraeli was the last ( 1880 ) and although he had Jewish parents, he switched to Anglican faith. Hundreds of talented Jews have been politicians since then but none have risen to the highest office. In more recent times we have had...Keith Joseph, Leon Brittan, Nigel Lawson, Gerald Kaufman, Michael Howard, Malcolm Rifkind etc...all very capable but none considered.
Its a sensitive subject but there is a level of subdued anti-semitism at the highest levels of government and the people in control will never allow it to happen.
Greville Janner ?
 


BrianWade4

Well-known member
Aug 17, 2010
3,152
A nice bit of South London
It'll be Chuka Umuna, the MP for Streatham, IMHO

Lives in my road. Ticks a lot of boxes- young, black, ambitious, did a good job as Shadow Business Secretary

Might be seen as too close to the Milliband, liberal left by some voters
 




Hugo Rune

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Feb 23, 2012
21,631
Brighton
SEMOD (Steely Eyed Messenger Of Death) is who the Tories fear. In terms of gravitas and leadership skills - think opposite of Ed Milliband.
 








Brovion

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 6, 2003
19,380
No one who has been to public school, has sent their kids to public school, or hasn't spent at least ten years in the real world that the rest of us inhabit. In fact they should all be expelled from the Labour Party. Bring back Michael Foot. (I know he's dead but he can't do any worse).
 


Bry Nylon

Test your smoke alarm
Helpful Moderator
Jul 21, 2003
19,868
Playing snooker
After Ed Miliband I think Labour should skip a generation and elect someone who thinks it is 1985.
 


PILTDOWN MAN

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Sep 15, 2004
18,711
Hurst Green




Behind Enemy Lines

Well-known member
Jul 18, 2003
4,806
London
It has to be someone who has some fresh ideas and who can open up the party and reach out. Someone who has wide appeal and can win. Think therefore has to be someone from 2010 in-take so the party can move on from the perceived, often wrongly, failures of the past. So that rules out Cooper and Burnham. Chukka? Perhaps but Labour could do with someone who has a different back story instead of too often route of PPE, law, SPAD etc. I don't know much about him but Jarvis looks like he has some of those things.
 


alfredmizen

Banned
Mar 11, 2015
6,342
Is that the M Foot who was educated at a fee paying private school http://www.leightonpark.com/441/about-the-school/old-leightonians
GAME-SET-MATCH.jpg

:thumbsup:
 


PILTDOWN MAN

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Sep 15, 2004
18,711
Hurst Green
We've had Milliband and Balls

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How about Shaun the sheep
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1066familyman

Radio User
Jan 15, 2008
15,185
It'll be Chuka Umuna, the MP for Streatham, IMHO

Lives in my road. Ticks a lot of boxes- young, black, ambitious, did a good job as Shadow Business Secretary

Might be seen as too close to the Milliband, liberal left by some voters

The worst possible candidate. Even more unelectable than Ed.

Comes across as very arrogant and will do nothing to win back the lost Labour voters in the North as he's another one who represents the London political class.

You also can't discount the underlying racism that still exists in this country. Any black candidate needs to be the very best, not people who grate like him or worse still, Diane Abbott.
I really hope the party take time to get the right leader in this time, because unfortunately in a sad world of personality politics it's absolutely crucial to get this decision spot on.
 


Herr Tubthumper

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
59,623
The Fatherland
The political inexperience that you and others constantly highlighted about UKIP ??

I don't recall ever commenting on this particular point but it clearly didn't hinder their vote.
 


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