So you're wrong (again). By the way you still haven't answered Machiavelli's question in the Labour 7 points thread.
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If Scotland votes yes, should Cameron resign ?
- Thread starter Dandyman
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So you're wrong (again). By the way you still haven't answered Machiavelli's question in the Labour 7 points thread.
pastafarian
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Surely the first and foremost responsibility of Her Majesty`s Government is (as a body of ministers) the management of National Affairs.The preservation of The Union is only a part of the cog.A size worthy amount of people north of the border do not believe the preservation is in their national interest.
If Scotland leaves the only people to blame will be the people that voted for it and those that have instilled in the Scot psyche over many years that independence is a possibility.
Tricky Dicky
New member
I don't really get why her Maj won't state an opinion, surely that's her job - unless she wants them to go. Her Balmoral holidays will be foreign trips if they leave.
Green Cross Code Man
Wunt be druv
Not really foreign as she will remain as monarch of Scotland.
pastafarian
Well-known member
foreign holidays eh........that makes me wonder,if the jocks leave,they wont be part of the EU......would duty free shopping be on the cards?
Psychobilly freakout
HellBilly
He should be knighted.
I do not think it will be appropriate for the monach to call Cameron a slimy selfish ****.
The monarch is a non-political role hence why she won't and in reality can't voice an opinion.
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
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tell that to the good people at Woodlands. "broadly synonymous" doesnt mean "the same". and what question, are you stalking me? im not sure if i should be flattered or not. (thats rhetorical btw, dont care to spark off cross thread discussions.)
Tricky Dicky
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I'm sure that's what they say, but I don't think this is a political issue, it's about keeping her domain in tact, she must have an opinion on that.
Superphil
Dismember
And if they vote no?
Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
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I believe Cameron is good "Chairman Of The Board"-type, great in a coalition situation and bringing people together, but step outside that and his one-on-one negotiating / haggling skills are mediocre at best.
Whipped by Clegg in the 2010 Party Leader debates, whipped by Salmond in the Scottish Referendum framework agreement of 2012, whipped by EU leaders in the EU Commissioner Juncker fiasco, some flaky foreign policy in the Middle East. If Tony Blair or David Miliband had been leading the Labour Party - rather than Red Ed The Buffoon - he'd also have been sorely challenged in PMQ's. As it is he's had a relatively easy ride.
Whipped by Clegg in the 2010 Party Leader debates, whipped by Salmond in the Scottish Referendum framework agreement of 2012, whipped by EU leaders in the EU Commissioner Juncker fiasco, some flaky foreign policy in the Middle East. If Tony Blair or David Miliband had been leading the Labour Party - rather than Red Ed The Buffoon - he'd also have been sorely challenged in PMQ's. As it is he's had a relatively easy ride.
father_and_son
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If the logic is that Cameron should resign because he supported "No" and the Scots vote yes.... then everyone who backed the No campaign has to resign from their job too! Is that how it works?
beorhthelm
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- Jul 21, 2003
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it occurs to me that Salmond and the SNP leadership must resign, no?
Hastings woody
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Ed Milliband will be PM next May anyway, God help us
vegster
Sanity Clause
- May 5, 2008
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Cameron is just the front man for the gang of businessmen who are now running the UK. They just trot out the same tired line that Labour caused the ( Worldwide ) economic collapse and that we are "all in it together " but, if we want to " work hard and get on " then the Tories will help us do it. Unfortunately,for most of us, this involves working harder for less money and less public services while the rich get richer and small businessmen can exploit a rich pool of cheap labour.
We are stuck with Cameron because he is the acceptable face of conservatism ( i.e. he is just acceptable to the Tory grandees) but he is no politician, he is just a bland PR who can front up and take the blows defending the Governments cut cut cut agenda. He can't be blamed for " losing " Scotland as he has no coherant policy anyway. In fact he seems to have no coherant policy on anything as he is not a conviction politician driven with the desire or the policies to change Britain.
We are stuck with Cameron because he is the acceptable face of conservatism ( i.e. he is just acceptable to the Tory grandees) but he is no politician, he is just a bland PR who can front up and take the blows defending the Governments cut cut cut agenda. He can't be blamed for " losing " Scotland as he has no coherant policy anyway. In fact he seems to have no coherant policy on anything as he is not a conviction politician driven with the desire or the policies to change Britain.