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You too have spotted all the other attributes. Bottle and can put his foot in when the skilled lightweights are facing bullies.
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Ashley Barnes
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Top post.
You too have spotted all the other attributes. Bottle and can put his foot in when the skilled lightweights are facing bullies.
W.C.
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- Oct 31, 2011
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Oh gosh another thread about Barnesjust what we needed
Oh gosh another post from you criticising another user's post
just what we needed 
- Jul 10, 2003
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Excellent young all round player who will only get better. Had a dodgy couple of games but is coming back into form. Nothing to see here, move along 
Crikey that's right you expert connoisseur football brain blockheadseagull, you might have said the same about Murray.
GingerBeerMan
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- Dec 29, 2011
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Just a quick message to all the people of 2016, when this is bounced, HELLO
Absolutely right. He's a great all rounder and adds great value. Like any player when he's out of form he looks it, but when he's in form he is excellent.
somerset
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Ha ha ha,.... that is funny......
HastingsSeagull
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Had a couple of poor games before Christmas but lots of good ones including yesterday. Can't see why he gets so much stick tbh
daveinprague
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I think looks better each time I see him...baring in mind thats rare as im abroad, but maybe if you see him every week, you dont see the improvements as much..
FWIW I can't see it......
GingerBeerMan
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I think Barnes will play THREE Premier League games, before being loaned out to a Championship side, and then signed.
blockhseagull
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What ?
Haven't slagged off Barnes and why even mention Murray ?
Barnes does a decent job in the system we play, the reason I say no is players like Cox, Sharp etc haven't made it at Prem level and they are both better players than Ash. He plays in a role that not many other sides adopt so can't see a queue of clubs wanting to take a risk at him at Prem league level.
You clearly are one of these people who thinks that anyone who questions Barnes doesn't understand football.
Decent Champ player in the role he plays yeah, premier league player no
Gazwag
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He might get the chance to show Theo Walcock what a winners medal looks like
First of all, "Cox better than Barnes"? You what??
Second, what is "the role" that Ashley plays exactly?
When I mentioned what he does for the team, I mean in every respect and position!
If I were an opposition player I'd say "don't make me mark Barnes" because he's EVERYWHERE.
& why should I not mention Murray - his ability to make the step up (at his old age) was questioned too, and though I cannot have predicted his success at palace, it transpired he's a raging success there unfortunately.
We have a striker roaming up front in a clear 'role' in CMS, and Ashley B. scores goals at this level while midfield, defence, wing and attack! He makes space for others and has a determination, ambition, physical presence, experience (already), awareness, and yes - ability to score goals.
His marker must cover a lot of ground or just have to leave him alone and hope he doesn't turn up and score or make a matchwinning move or pass.
He does a bit of matchwinning without needing to score a goal, in my opinion.
Barnes could easily play in the Prem but there is a difference between making one or two appearances and becoming a Premiership regular. There have been players who belong in league one who have made occasional appearances at the top level. Even Man Utd have played some of their youngsters in the top division before they end up way down the league. Which reminds me, Obertan is gash - quite what he's doing at Newcastle I really don't know. He should be at somewhere like Sheffied United.
As for Barnes, he needs to be more consistent and become a bit more prolific with his chances if he is going to forge a career any higher than this, and to be fair time is on his side. Consistency is the main difference between Barnes and Liam Bridcutt for me. Bridcutt is better than Barnes (we can argue by how much) but more crucially, he is so consistent. His off-days are very rare indeed.
As for Barnes, he needs to be more consistent and become a bit more prolific with his chances if he is going to forge a career any higher than this, and to be fair time is on his side. Consistency is the main difference between Barnes and Liam Bridcutt for me. Bridcutt is better than Barnes (we can argue by how much) but more crucially, he is so consistent. His off-days are very rare indeed.
blockhseagull
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First of all, "Cox better than Barnes"? You what??
Second, what is "the role" that Ashley plays exactly?
When I mentioned what he does for the team, I mean in every respect and position!
If I were an opposition player I'd say "don't make me mark Barnes" because he's EVERYWHERE.
& why should I not mention Murray - his ability to make the step up (at his old age) was questioned too, and though I cannot have predicted his success at palace, it transpired he's a raging success there unfortunately.
We have a striker roaming up front in a clear 'role' in CMS, and Ashley B. scores goals at this level while midfield, defence, wing and attack! He makes space for others and has a determination, ambition, physical presence, experience (already), awareness, and yes - ability to score goals.
His marker must cover a lot of ground or just have to leave him alone and hope he doesn't turn up and score or make a matchwinning move or pass.
He does a bit of matchwinning without needing to score a goal, in my opinion.
Simon Cox is a better striker than Barnes, end of and has a scoring record to prove it
Ashley Barnes does a very good role in a withdrawn striker position, either being asked to play on left or right and occasionally central midfield. As his role seems to be a supporting one rather than a creative one he does a good job. He hasn't got the ability to beat a player although he ability to hold the ball up and draw the foul is exceptional. The nearest comparison to the role he plays is Emnes perhaps ? While I like Barnes I don't view him through the rose tinted spectacles that some do, he is solid and unspectacular and while he fits in to our system and has a big part to making it work I don't see many other sides above us playing a system he would be as effective in.
I would love to see him as an out and out striker alongside CMS and or someone else as I believe that is the only way he will be able to prove his ability as a possible premiership player.
As for Murray, his season has no relevance on whether Ash can play at Prem level and I have never said whether Murray can or can't make the grade in the top division
mejonaNO12 aka riskit
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Since 2010 Cox has a scoring ratio of one goal every 6 games
Barnes has a goal every 3 games.
Just to let you know.
blockhseagull
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Bit of a difference in levels they are playing at though
m20gull
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HE is defintiely improving; just wish he would grow out of the little frustrated displays we still get.