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[Politics] Donald Trump 2024



lasvegan

Well-known member
Jan 30, 2009
1,915
Sin City
Well this is a thread specifically designed to elicit a response to Trump’s candidacy (or by association, Biden’s) so it’s a bit hard to make intelligent or useful on topic contributions to the thread without declaring some kind of position on Trump or Biden - unless you just post the ‘news’ - but even then one’s selection of news sources contain inherent bias in that choice.

Not sure who you are referring to as ‘throwing toys out of the pram’ btw but if Trump wins, which is seemingly getting more and more like a real possibility, I can assure you it will have far more a devastating impact on global enviro-geo-eco-politics than your trivilisation of the thread (and of those commenting on the issues) seems to reflect.



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Better stop posting all newspaper articles then, it works equally well on the left.
 




lasvegan

Well-known member
Jan 30, 2009
1,915
Sin City
Erm, thanks @Zeberdi . I'm not sure, any further explanation was required for me, I am fully aware Mr Trump hasn't been charged with insurrection - I was merely curious as to what level of weaponry @Crawley Dingo thought was required for an insurrection to be regarded as legitimate... which is probably off topic.

I am interested in the BLM stuff, which I admit not paying much attention to at the time, so will browse through the links you've posted at my leisure. Again, probably off topic.
Be careful not to come to the conclusion that BLM is a Marxist, POS of an organization that has done absolutely nothing to help blacks in America other than to enrich themselves. You will be crucified upside down...
 


Curious Orange

Punxsatawney Phil
Jul 5, 2003
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On NSC for over two decades...
As an aside, if you are interested in the odd culture war stories that seem to permeate the Trump era, I'd highly recommend having a listen to Jon Ronson's Things Fell Apart series' on BBC Sounds:

 


Seagull58

In the Algarve
Jan 31, 2012
7,290
Vilamoura, Portugal
Thats not how it works, you get independent valuations or the onus is on the lender to value and agree the loan. Loans were agreed and repaid, no victim or any other type of crime. This is making other businesses a bit panic ridden and I think it was the mayor who said this judgement only applies to trump to calm nerves. Wot?
His 11,000 sq ft apartment was described as 30,000 sq ft for valuation purposes.
 


peterward

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NSC Patron
Nov 11, 2009
11,366
Made up? Most apart from the papers at Mara lago. Its called lawfare and my auto correct is going a bit gimpy atm.

I think an insurrection is an organised riot to overthrow the authority. Which was why the FBI was threatening defendants with long sentences if they didn't give evidence of collusion with trump. They didn't give evidence as there wasn't any so got long sentences for not colluding go figure.

BLM riots are relevant as an example of a 2 tier justice system. Jan6ers have been held in solitary for months without charges for what is effectively trespass, whereas BLM/antifa marxist were released to carry on rioting.
:tosser: :wanker: previous now banned incarnation @Tyrone Biggums wasn't quite as delusional and conspiratory
 




Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Oct 8, 2003
50,215
Faversham
Made up? Most apart from the papers at Mara lago. Its called lawfare and my auto correct is going a bit gimpy atm.

I think an insurrection is an organised riot to overthrow the authority. Which was why the FBI was threatening defendants with long sentences if they didn't give evidence of collusion with trump. They didn't give evidence as there wasn't any so got long sentences for not colluding go figure.

BLM riots are relevant as an example of a 2 tier justice system. Jan6ers have been held in solitary for months without charges for what is effectively trespass, whereas BLM/antifa marxist were released to carry on rioting.
Didn't they tell you to not tell lies when you went to school?
 


Stat Brother

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Jul 11, 2003
73,785
West west west Sussex
Insurrection - a violent uprising against an authority or government.



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de la zouch

Active member
Jul 12, 2007
391
Having worked in the US and studied American political systems as part of my degree im clearly overqualified to comment on this thread 😂.
However my observations. Never in a million years did I see a world where Trump could be favourite to win at this stage of the electoral cycle. So why is this:
- Biden literally doesn’t know what day it is. Very sad but true
- Kamala Harris has been shown to be totally out of her depth and is pretty much despised across the spectrum
- immigration is truly an issue now in the eyes of most Americans (who are all immigrants) and Joe has been asleep at the wheel on this.
- the democrats have tied themselves in knots on the Israel situation
However I have hope that he won’t win. I think he will pick an even more obnoxious running mate that will remove 10% of sensible old skool republicans and cost him the election
 


cjd

Well-known member
Jun 22, 2006
6,106
La Rochelle
The charges are to hamper his election campaign brought by DNC judges and DAs, None are likely to be fair trials if you have read the details of the latest trial its an absolute abomination.
I find it hard to agree with anything you post, but you are keeping one poster busy with lengthy replies, allowing the rest of the forum to breathe a little.

Keep up the good work.
 








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