Tubby Mondays
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And swapping leaders isn’t out of the question given the local elections in May.
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[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...
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nicko31
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PMQ's was horrendous today.
Really not looking to the election campaign when it kick off, the Tories are a wounded animal fighting to survive and they are to fight very dirty. 2019 was pretty bad but I fear this will reach new depths.
Really not looking to the election campaign when it kick off, the Tories are a wounded animal fighting to survive and they are to fight very dirty. 2019 was pretty bad but I fear this will reach new depths.
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Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
I agree totally.
Today's comment was clumsy at worst, yet the political capital sought and screaming for policemen is embarrassing and a sign of poor things to come.
keaton
Big heart, hot blood and balls. Big balls
- Nov 18, 2004
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No at best it was clumsy . at worst it was a clueless twat trying to inflame more culture wars against vulnerable people to deflect from his parties failings.
Trying to claw votes away from The Reform Party isn't a good look for the Tories.
Imagine how different this country would be if they just cuddled Farage and stuck him in an unloseable seat, all those years ago.
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- Jul 10, 2003
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What, you think the political brilliance of your preferred cabal's last 4 and a bit years in charge may be coming to an end
Machiavelli
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Without wanting to be too argumentative
they obviously aren't that impactful if you can only point to one four elections ago in which the leader of a third party did well -- he had somewhat of a free pass in that one which was the first IIRC. That said, the core point I was trying (and failing) to make is that KS is not a great speaker, and I doubt he'll win too many over in the debates -- not that he'll need to, he'll just need to ensure he doesn't fall apart and I doubt he will largely for the reasons you identify: he can think on his feet, knows his brief and doesn't get flustered.
clapham_gull
Legacy Fan
- Aug 20, 2003
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Good analysis of the mess they are in.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Penny Mordaunt is a proven liar (Turkey and veto) with a convicted paedophile brother.
Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
WhenWhat, you think the political brilliance of your preferred cabal's last 4 and a bit years in charge may be coming to an end
Your point being?
I'm not sure how much of the boost Clegg had from the first debate remained by the time the actual vote came around. In any case, the Lib Dems won 5 fewer seats in 2010 than 2005, albeit with 23% of the vote rather than 22%.
nicko31
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Sunak just constantly illustrates poor judgement from appointing Suella Braveman to falling for Piers Morgan publicity stunts. He really is his own worse enemy
Brian Fantana
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Entirely unsure what her brother has to do with anything? As if that somehow makes her a less credible candidate just by association.
Bizarre thing to reference, IMO.
Farehamseagull
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For those of us who avidly watched Neighbours in the late 90’s and early 00’s, I can’t begin to tell you how heartbreaking this is!
Man of Harveys
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This is simply a devastating critique from that renowned lefty rag the Rupert Murdoch-owned Times. Absolutely brutal.
Empathy bypass will haunt Sunak for his remaining time in office
www.thetimes.co.uk
Empathy bypass will haunt Sunak for his remaining time in office
Empathy bypass will haunt Sunak for his remaining time in office
Prime minister’s folder of retorts let him down when a bit of humanity was required
www.thetimes.co.uk
clapham_gull
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- Aug 20, 2003
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The complete oddness of where they are. Their members don't want the most competent leader and are more interested continuing on an ideological basis that will see them out of power for decade.
I've never believe I'd think this, but the Conservatives have morphed into the 1980 Labour party.
Who could have predicted that ?
clapham_gull
Legacy Fan
- Aug 20, 2003
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She has more genes in common with crabs than she does with you and me. Now that's a scientific fact: there's no real evidence for it, but it is scientific fact.
clapham_gull
Legacy Fan
- Aug 20, 2003
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Takes a brave Tory MP to stand up against the mob who have taken control of their historic party.