Nobby Cybergoat
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Decent chance also that they plead guilty at the last minute
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[Misc] Jury Service
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Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
Indeed, it depends if there is one 'mega-case' or a few lesser ones.
The example I gave was for a + 4 weeker I think.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
You don't get called to a particular case, but go into the juror's room where you may get assigned a case or not.
Tom Hark Preston Park
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- Jul 6, 2003
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Unless it's changed much for B&H in the past couple of years, you don't get scheduled in advance to be a juror on an individual case. You get called up as part of a pool of thirty or so jurors to cover a ten day period. Then, when you get there, they draw numbers out of a hat to decide who sits on the jury for a particular case
Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
I certainly wouldn't put 'Brentford away' in the space marked 'Reason for Deferral'.
Nobody is called up with a specific case in mind.
It's to be part of a pool of jurors (there will be more than needed) who are assigned to cases (or not) as and when new ones start.
It's essentially just a conveyor belt of eligible jurors organised way in advance, who get pot luck over the case(s) they are assigned to.
This - at the time of selection (will be loads in the 'waiting room') you have no idea what you're being selected for - don't think you find out until after the jury has been selected (initially 15 I thought in our cases - which I assume is normal - all 15 then went into court and the names of those involved were read out to see if anyone had any 'conflicts'), then it's reduced to the final 12. You're sworn in and only then are the charges are read out. My understanding is if the case is expected to be longer than two weeks this will be explained at the time of selection and if that's a problem you may be excused from that particular ballot. You are liable to be called up at any point during your two week stint - new cases start all the time and not always to a defined timetable
Mellor 3 Ward 4
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I think if you say you're going to be out of the Country they wil accept that.
This.
I was even transferred from Hove to Lewes one day on my first jury service as they were slightly short of options there compared to Hove (and then didn't get picked there).
The longer into the 2 weeks you go, the more likely you'll be stood down rather than asked to hang around as there's less chance they can guarantee the next case will wrap up before the end of your scheduled 2 weeks.
Yep - I was 'lucky' in that I got selected on day 1 for a case that lasted 7 days, then almost immediately picked again for one they expected to last no more than 3 days so my two weeks was fully occupied. Some of the original group I was called up with only did the second case and were hanging around for a week and a half waiting (not being selected for other juries that started)
Tom Hark Preston Park
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They're also pretty good about keeping you informed as to whether you need to turn up or not. Unless you're actually on a case, or if they're doing legal arguments or something, you might get sent home for the afternoon, or you might get a text late afternoon telling you that you don't need to turn up the following day
Easy 10
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I ended up sitting on 3 cases over about 12 days.
1 juror was let off because the case was dragging on, he was self-employed and said it was harming his business, so the Judge accepted a jury of 11 for the case (but wanted a 10-1 verdict, which we did not reach).
Another one was let off because he said he'd read previous about the defendant in the local press.
I watched an american TV series last year where one of the jurors, when asked if there was any reason he should not be on the particular case, said "I don't like blacks". So off he went.
So there are getouts.
1 juror was let off because the case was dragging on, he was self-employed and said it was harming his business, so the Judge accepted a jury of 11 for the case (but wanted a 10-1 verdict, which we did not reach).
Another one was let off because he said he'd read previous about the defendant in the local press.
I watched an american TV series last year where one of the jurors, when asked if there was any reason he should not be on the particular case, said "I don't like blacks". So off he went.
So there are getouts.
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One of ours put her hand up and said 'I'm friends with his (defendant's) gran'
It was big news at the time, I can tell you... then not picked.
I sympathise with Kalvin Phillips
Oh, I absolutely will, and understand the importance of doing so.
A spring/summer call-up is just easier to work around - the boys can walk back from school as the weather will be more favourable and we can leave the doors open for the dog.
Oh, and it won’t clash with the BIGGEST AWAY GAME IN THE CLUB’S HISTORY.
If I recall correctly (I'm about 75% sure), they do have the right to ask to see evidence of booked flights etc. (The date of booking would need to show as before the summons arrived, rather than being able to hastily book something when a summons arrives)
I don't think they are very likely to invoke that right, but by the book, you need a stand-up reason to defer i.e. something you really have to do (work etc), or if it's something less essential, but already booked e.g. a holiday. I'd imagine a first-time deferral will be waved through, with more scrutiny if you deferred again?
The chances are, you'd be fine to just say you have travel booked.
Seem to recall there is no second deferral - when you get your first one you have to provide dates you are available and they'll assign one of them
maffew
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"Loss of loyalty points"?