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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


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    1,084


The Clamp

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jan 11, 2016
24,581
West is BEST
:lolol:
IMF lady issuing a warning, Breaking News from the clamp.
Finger on the pulse as ever to developing situations.
Shame that in your frantic rush to find a current negative news story surrounding Brexit on the internet you forgot to check your link was 3 months old.
What a wally.

Breaking news from Pastafarian as he quotes something I posted days ago. You that desperate to have a dig at five to seven in the morning that you trawl back days to find something to have a go at? Desperate doesn't begin to cover it.
 




Lincoln Imp

Well-known member
Feb 2, 2009
5,964
Good to see you have finally come round to the notion that another referendum on this big decision should not happen and be left up to the general public and that the big decisions about Brexit after the initial advice from the will of the people should now rest in the hands of Parliament.
I knew you would change your mind eventually after listening to our common sense.
And equally good to see that you have finally agreed that the last referendum on this big issue should not have happened and that the big decision on Britain's membership of the EU should have rested in the hands of Parliament. As far as receiving 'advice from the will of the people' is concerned the constitution has an established mechanism for doing that.
 


Baldseagull

Well-known member
Jan 26, 2012
10,987
Crawley
Agree its obvious you didn’t read the text that’s why you wrongly decided to insert whiteness as a reason. Not sure you still have read the text, when you ask instead “Perhaps it is an anti Islamic thing rather than a white thing” you must have missed the bit that says “In fact, the only area that the majority of people didn’t think was important was a migrant’s religion”. So well done again for missing the point and inventing reasoning that’s not there.

But we are not building an immigration policy on public opinion so its rather pointless you keep saying “if” we did. But pray tell what is racist about the public or its opinion?

If we are not building an immigration policy around public opinion, it would be possible to have a policy where EU citizens could come and take work without requiring a work permit, but this is a red line in negotiations we are told. We are not just building an immigration policy over public opinion on immigration, we are leaving the EU over the public opinion on immigration, do not pretend that the narrow majority would have come in for leave, without the issue of free movement of people.

People saying religion is not important, when asked if religion should be a factor, may give the answer no, but when they then choose Islamic countries as the ones they would most like to reduce numbers from, despite virtually zero immigration from either Egypt or Turkey in the last ten years, it speaks for itself. 5 out of 6 of the countries people most wanted to reduce numbers from, are Islamic majority countries, only Romania joining them, no Islamic majority country above this bottom 6 in the survey.
You tell me why people would want to see less Turks and Egyptians more than less Poles and Indians, when there are around 1.5Million Polish and Indian born, and less than 150,000 Turkish and Egyptian born combined. Roughly similar numbers of Irish born and Pakistani born people in the uk today, but the survey says we want more, not less, Irish, yet Pakistanis are not so welcome.
Pray tell me how this is not racist?

Can you also tell me why Mexicans appear to be so unwelcome?
 




Baldseagull

Well-known member
Jan 26, 2012
10,987
Crawley
You dont understand Parliamentary procedure do you?
Lets start at the beginning, how do you achieve Henry VIII powers on an act of parliament?

You pretend you only want to tweak some minor stuff, point out the time sensitivity and hope for the best.
 






beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,332
You will thank her one day, in keeping the b*****ds honest. This government must be the most corrupt we've in a century

your using a new definition of "corrupt" and making a bigger issue of the Miller issue than it is - all expenditure has to be approved ultimately by parliament through the Finance bill.
 


nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
17,648
Gods country fortnightly
Thats awful
Can you please please please share your evidence of corruption..............would hate to think you are inventing stuff.

Without much thought and mentioning corrupt individuals....

£1BN bung to DUP, violation of data protection and election rules, trying to bypass parliament with Brexit, the European Research Group the list goes on. They are the lowest of the low, I didn't think I'd ever ever say this but I'd than have Corbyn at the helm..
 




Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum
If we are not building an immigration policy around public opinion, it would be possible to have a policy where EU citizens could come and take work without requiring a work permit, but this is a red line in negotiations we are told. We are not just building an immigration policy over public opinion on immigration, we are leaving the EU over the public opinion on immigration, do not pretend that the narrow majority would have come in for leave, without the issue of free movement of people.

People saying religion is not important, when asked if religion should be a factor, may give the answer no, but when they then choose Islamic countries as the ones they would most like to reduce numbers from, despite virtually zero immigration from either Egypt or Turkey in the last ten years, it speaks for itself. 5 out of 6 of the countries people most wanted to reduce numbers from, are Islamic majority countries, only Romania joining them, no Islamic majority country above this bottom 6 in the survey.
You tell me why people would want to see less Turks and Egyptians more than less Poles and Indians, when there are around 1.5Million Polish and Indian born, and less than 150,000 Turkish and Egyptian born combined. Roughly similar numbers of Irish born and Pakistani born people in the uk today, but the survey says we want more, not less, Irish, yet Pakistanis are not so welcome.
Pray tell me how this is not racist?

Can you also tell me why Mexicans appear to be so unwelcome?

Possibly,the countries at the bottom of the list are the ones that have not worked out how to use toilet paper yet,and still use their hand to wipe.
 


Baldseagull

Well-known member
Jan 26, 2012
10,987
Crawley
Possibly,the countries at the bottom of the list are the ones that have not worked out how to use toilet paper yet,and still use their hand to wipe.

I can only manage one idiot at a time, please wait your turn.
 






Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum


Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum


nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
17,648
Gods country fortnightly




Herr Tubthumper

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
59,746
The Fatherland
The lunch the prime minister served her top brass at Chequers in February, as they plotted their election strategy, as described in a new book about the 2017 campaign, Betting the House, by Tim Ross and Tom McTague was chicken lasagne and boiled potatoes."

WTF. Who puts chicken in lasagne? Clueless.
 


CHAPPERS

DISCO SPENG
Jul 5, 2003
44,803
The lunch the prime minister served her top brass at Chequers in February, as they plotted their election strategy, as described in a new book about the 2017 campaign, Betting the House, by Tim Ross and Tom McTague was chicken lasagne and boiled potatoes."

WTF. Who puts chicken in lasagne? Clueless.

She just heated loads of these through and billed the taxpayer for a few hundred.

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Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum
The lunch the prime minister served her top brass at Chequers in February, as they plotted their election strategy, as described in a new book about the 2017 campaign, Betting the House, by Tim Ross and Tom McTague was chicken lasagne and boiled potatoes."

WTF. Who puts chicken in lasagne? Clueless.

Possibly not a true European lasagna,but for people who appreciate good food:

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beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,332

The EU is rapidly evolving into something far more ambitious than just a free trade area: it is in the process of becoming one huge economic zone governed by a single set of rules and standards and overseen by a single European court of justice, striking trade deals with the rest of the world and deriving its logic and coherence from the four famous freedoms of goods, capital, services and labour. Products such as cars, computers or aeroplanes are now built from components made in factories and production units scattered across the EU, with employees moving seamlessly between them. For this reason “single economy” is a far better term than “single market”.

being reminded of a very good reasons for leaving is hardly difficult reading. a "single economy" needs a single fiscal policy, and aspires to be a single state. if the EU really wont avoid damage to themselves in the belief of "self-preservation" by retaining a rigid set of rules, that just tells us more about how they intend to run their state and more reason to not be a part of it.
 


5ways

Well-known member
Sep 18, 2012
2,217
being reminded of a very good reasons for leaving is hardly difficult reading. a "single economy" needs a single fiscal policy, and aspires to be a single state. if the EU really wont avoid damage to themselves in the belief of "self-preservation" by retaining a rigid set of rules, that just tells us more about how they intend to run their state and more reason to not be a part of it.

Of course we would have retained an independent fiscal policy.
 


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