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Barber and the club have lost me as a customer today







Jan 30, 2008
31,981
i hear" supply and demand" being banded about, hope that's the case when we're struggling at the foot of the table this season , couldn't make up some of the utter contempt being shown by some on here TIME FOR A REALITY CHECK :glare:
regards
DR
 


est.83

Active member
Dec 6, 2003
487
Estonia
For me it is not that much about the price of a single ticket but the availability of the tickets in general. I am not saying that I would like to pay 45 pounds or even more to see one football match but since it is once a year (or sometimes even rarer) occasion for me I do not have to multiply it by the number of games I would attend.

This year I am worried that I couldn't get a ticket at all because with all those memberships and loyalty points system I probably cannot compete even though I have been supporting the club for almost two decades now. Hope I am wrong and I will be able to get over to the Albion some time in February/March to see Brighton play in the Premier League - who knows, that could be once in a lifetime oppurtunity (given the lack of signings as of today).
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
If i wasn't a season ticket holder you wouldn't catch me paying more than £25 for a football match unless it was a final or a top fixture. I would simply watch it on tv/radio and eventually find something else to do with my time.

If it wasn't for interest free direct debit, I wouldn't have a season ticket.

I'm enjoying going at the moment, but as I pointed out in a previous post, many pages ago, there have been times when I couldn't afford to go to games. That's life, and not just modern times.
We all have choices on how we spend our money.


Btw when posters moan about ticket prices, they always quote the highest prices. Cat C games are £30, but that doesn't look as dramatic.
 






el punal

Well-known member
Yep, the old saying of not always getting what you wish for applies. All the years of heartache and support of the club's existence have led to a new era of corporate bollox, JCLs and unaffordability for many of those who fought the bad times - all done under a thin veil of community, which is, of course, more corporate bollox (all the major companies do it). Yeh, times change and I am still concerned about where it will all end up. For what used to be a pleasant fortnightly outing on a Saturday afternoon to watch a bit of sport is now something that intrudes in terms of lifestyle and expense much more than it should.

Welcome to the 21st century. Long gone are the days that that could rock up to the Goldstone at one minute to three, pays yer money, go through the turnstile, onto the terrace, watch the game and be out of the ground a minute after full time.
 


JBizzle

Well-known member
Apr 18, 2010
5,849
Seaford
= a great strategy to prevent the very young seeing Albion games at the Amex, meaning many of the next generation get hooked again on Liverpool, Arsenal and ManU.

Deja vu, but this time due to the sheer cost to parents.

I get what you mean, but the £25 tickets would be for those games against Liverpool, Arsenal and Man Utd.

Playing Devil's advocate here a touch, but in theory, you could have kids watch their first game, see Brighton lose 3-0 to Arsenal and have those kids think "Screw this... I wanna support the team that beat Brighton 3-0!" - Thus pushing those same new kids to get hooked on non-BHAFC teams anyway! Actually, it probably is a more strategic move to take them to a cheaper game we're more likely to win. Can't see anyone choosing to support Stoke whatever the result!
 


Tim Over Whelmed

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NSC Patron
Jul 24, 2007
10,213
Arundel
Supply and demand lad, supply and demand.

This, in spade fulls.

When I hear the phrase "the ordinary fan is priced out of the market" I wonder a. what an ordinary fan is? and b. what would you do in the clubs position? They have around 4,000 non ST seats to sell, a waiting list for season tickets and they could probably sell the seats three times over for each game, are they going to means test each applicant and price accordingly, no.
 




dejavuatbtn

Well-known member
Aug 4, 2010
7,229
Henfield
Welcome to the 21st century. Long gone are the days that that could rock up to the Goldstone at one minute to three, pays yer money, go through the turnstile, onto the terrace, watch the game and be out of the ground a minute after full time.
Nothing to do with what century we are in. I just don't want my life run by Sky TV who seem to have the whole of the football adoring public having to keep rearranging their lives just to watch a game of football. You might be happy and accepting of it - but that's your prerogative.
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
I get what you mean, but the £25 tickets would be for those games against Liverpool, Arsenal and Man Utd.

Playing Devil's advocate here a touch, but in theory, you could have kids watch their first game, see Brighton lose 3-0 to Arsenal and have those kids think "Screw this... I wanna support the team that beat Brighton 3-0!" - Thus pushing those same new kids to get hooked on non-BHAFC teams anyway! Actually, it probably is a more strategic move to take them to a cheaper game we're more likely to win. Can't see anyone choosing to support Stoke whatever the result!

Our local journalist did.
 






GT49er

Well-known member
Feb 1, 2009
46,840
Gloucester
Welcome to the 21st century. Long gone are the days that that could rock up to the Goldstone at one minute to three, pays yer money, go through the turnstile, onto the terrace, watch the game and be out of the ground a minute after full time.

Welcome to the 21st. century indeed. I will continue to exercise my right not to like some aspects of it very much.
 


Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,244
Surrey
If we do a Sunderland next year, there will be all the tickets under the sun. That's why pricing people like the OP out is a bad idea because when it turns to shit like Sam Hypia they are the ones that turn up.

With my financial head on this is simple. ST is too cheap and one off tickets too high.

This is where I'm at.

Furthermore, we probably now have too many season ticket holders, and that is a very difficult issue to address assuming that the ground can't/won't be expanded. The problem is that 2-3,000 seats not taken up by the away allocation and STHs is now woefully inadequate if you want to retain capacity for some people to turn up as their interest in football is piqued for the first time. But obviously the difficulty is that the huge STH base model worked a treat in the Championship.

As it is, I've resigned myself to not being able to go very often. In truth, it has meant my Albion mojo is currently ridiculously low given the status of the club. My six year old son - who nags me to take him quite often these days - is not going to get to many games. His interest will probably wane as he finds interest in other things. I'll probably end up taking him to rugby games instead, sadly. The bottom line is that you can get to big 80,000 capacity double headers at Twickenham for a tenner a kid, whereas £30+ for a six year old to go to the football is completely absurd.
 


Tooting Gull

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
11,033
This is where I'm at.

Furthermore, we probably now have too many season ticket holders, and that is a very difficult issue to address assuming that the ground can't/won't be expanded. The problem is that 2-3,000 seats not taken up by the away allocation and STHs is now woefully inadequate if you want to retain capacity for some people to turn up as their interest in football is piqued for the first time. But obviously the difficulty is that the huge STH base model worked a treat in the Championship.

As it is, I've resigned myself to not being able to go very often. In truth, it has meant my Albion mojo is currently ridiculously low given the status of the club. My six year old son - who nags me to take him quite often these days - is not going to get to many games. His interest will probably wane as he finds interest in other things. I'll probably end up taking him to rugby games instead, sadly. The bottom line is that you can get to big 80,000 capacity double headers at Twickenham for a tenner a kid, whereas £30+ for a six year old to go to the football is completely absurd.

Pretty much where I am. I wouldn't say the mojo is low at the moment, but enough of not being able to get in, or only at prohibitively high cost, and that may be inevitable. Empty seats and unused away allocations are certainly going to piss people off this season more than ever, but hopefully the club's exchange will help.

And as you say, the fact that for a STH an adult and a six-year-old could be in for as little as £33 for even Cat A games, whereas on an individual basis that will be from £70 to £85, is crazy and far too high a differential.

And to all those STHs who don't think this is a problem right now, you may not always have a season ticket, so it's worth sparing a thought for your fellow fans in a different situation. Because one day that might be you. And we need everyone going forward.
 




Springal

Well-known member
Feb 12, 2005
23,944
GOSBTS
It's terrible that Paul Barber is being allowed to do all this by himself without the board intervening.
 


The_Viper

Well-known member
Oct 10, 2010
4,345
Charlotte, NC
Does this mean we lose you as a member on here too? That would be AMAZING. Especially since the mods think using autism as an insult is OK. Embarrassing affair all round really.
 




Bozza

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Jul 4, 2003
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rippleman

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Oct 18, 2011
4,585
These are the prices being charged by Southampton for the visit of United next season.

Are the prices too high? Probably but if the match sells out then not too high for those wealthy enough to attend.

Are the Albion charging more? After taking into the travel voucher, they're roughly in line.

This is perhaps further indication that it's better to travel than to arrive.

Welcome to the Premier League?

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My emphasis...and this is what it all boils down to....being wealthy enough to pay the prices.

The fact that some of us have followed the club for decades. Stuck through it during all the dark days. Went on marches, protests, put our hands in our pockets at times too. The club of today just doesn't care. They (by which I mean Barber as unlike others I am sure TB doesn't micro-manage the club on a daily basis with his other business interests) want the new generation of PL fans to have heavy pockets so they are prepared to buy each new kit when it comes out, pay high prices for food and drink and just about every novelty you can think of. Those who have the funds to splash the cash without having to think about it.

There is a question posed on the back cover of "And The Sun Shines Now": What happens when you take the people's game away from the people?

This is what you get.
 




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