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Season ticket anomaly



Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,244
Surrey
I'm surprised more clubs haven't followed Man U's stance on ST holders not using tickets.

If you cannot make the game you have to let them know and they re-sell the ticket for that game. I believe they are VERY harsh and often punish people. For example i'm pretty sure as a Man U ST holder you have to go to cup games (at extra cost) or risk losing your home ticket for the next game. But don't quote me on that, something I heard way back from a friend who travels from Worthing for every home game.

But I believe it is your ST you've paid for it so do what you want. But something does need to be done about the thousands of empty seats at home game sell outs.

They certainly need to do something like this. We are in the incredible position where the season ticket holders and waiting list total count is so high that we'd potentially break our all time highest Goldstone gate most games next season. With that in mind, spare tickets are going to be like rocking horse shìt and I do think that fans who hold season tickets need to realise they are the privileged ones. I know they earnt the right to hold those tickets, but between the club and its fans, there should be no excuse for empty seats in these circumstances all the while we are in the top flight.
 




amexer

Well-known member
Aug 8, 2011
6,243
Appreciate with the demand for tickets it is a problem for club. However do think when 2 people sit together and one is no longer able to go they should bend the rules. After all, who wants to sit on own. I am concerned my father will not be able to go for much longer and when this happens I will want to go with my son or a friend. It would take away a lot of the enjoyment sitting and having a drink on my own.
 


CheeseRolls

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jan 27, 2009
5,991
Shoreham Beach
Last season, I moved out of the family stand, as I wanted a change and moved to East Stand Upper. In doing so we dropped down from three season tickets to two, allowing for my oldest going to Uni. Sneakily I picked two seats with one free to the left and one free directly in front. My oldest got to all the games he wanted to and it was only right at the end of the season that he had to sit in random places around the stadium. Next year son number two will be off and then I will have a dilemma, to the Op.

On a personal level, this is mildly irritating. None of us like change, but it's a small price to pay for success.

Withdean before they introduced the Worthing Stand, was pretty much at capacity and it seemed to attract two specific types of characters. Those people who revelled in their ability to get hold of a scarce ticket and those who loved being connected enough to pass on tickets. It only took a small downturn in form and a few extra seats and both types rapidly disappeared whence they came. I fear it will get a lot harder this time around.

One possible solution of course is to grass on away fans in the home stands, making it awkward for anyone boring on about Arsenal, or doing deals with mates on their ticket. If it sounds a bit extreme it probably is. Personally respectful visitors are not a problem, gobby gits and anyone not watching the game, goes on my angry list.
 




osgood

Well-known member
Apr 17, 2011
1,514
brighton
Appreciate with the demand for tickets it is a problem for club. However do think when 2 people sit together and one is no longer able to go they should bend the rules. After all, who wants to sit on own. I am concerned my father will not be able to go for much longer and when this happens I will want to go with my son or a friend. It would take away a lot of the enjoyment sitting and having a drink on my own.

It does seem so wrong for the club to not allow a little slack for pairs of STH who have held them for many years. would like to upgrade, to be told they cant , to favour those thousands that have paid £25 and joined the waiting list, mostly, just because we have now reached the top flight !, what has happened to (The clubs) loyalty??
 




dazzer6666

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Mar 27, 2013
52,655
Burgess Hill
Think we'll see far fewer empty STH seats next season

As regards away fans in the home seats, they can **** right off if they draw any attention to themselves at all - not sure it'd be tolerated many other places (even at friendly Fulham I saw a couple of lads ejected from the home end as soon as they 'identified themselves' when Liverpool scored). Biggest issue will probably be all the 'two clubbers' we have - the ones that jump up and down and cheer in the concourse when Arsenal or Chelsea score.

The STH upgrade thing really is a tricky one and like others I can see both sides, but essentially upgrading it as stated in the OP is tantamount to making it an 'open ticket', which isn't fair on those on the waiting list. Think what @HKFC outlines (#4) is the simple solution.
 








BRIGHT ON Q

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
9,123
I know it's horses for courses but it seems a world apart from how Huddersfield treat season ticket holders.
 


Blackadder

Brighton Bhuna Boy
Jul 6, 2003
16,077
Haywards Heath
This has probably been covered in another thread but what happens when all children in a family become Adults?

presumably they have to move out of the family stand but where to if the ground is full?

I have a work mate who used to take his son to Chelsea in the family stand. He had to give his Season Tickets up, when his son turned 18.
 






GOM

living vicariously
Aug 8, 2005
3,225
Leeds - but not the dirty bit
So to summarise. Son has given up season ticket, this leaves a spare seat. There is a waiting list for season tickets, however person in next seat (the father) wants to jump the queue and buy a second season ticket, that he intends to let his friends use.

I think I see the clubs point of view.
 


Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
50,223
Goldstone
I have been advised by the club that I have two options, upgrade 6 times then go on my own or cancel his season ticket.
Yeah, if you're son doesn't need it, there are others on the waiting list who would like it. Sucks I know.
 








Greg Bobkin

Silver Seagull
May 22, 2012
14,920
This has probably been covered in another thread but what happens when all children in a family become Adults?

presumably they have to move out of the family stand but where to if the ground is full?

I have a work mate who used to take his son to Chelsea in the family stand. He had to give his Season Tickets up, when his son turned 18.

I've got a while until I have to worry about that, but it's a good question.
 


Whoislloydy

Well-known member
May 2, 2016
2,445
Vancouver, British Columbia
So to summarise. Son has given up season ticket, this leaves a spare seat. There is a waiting list for season tickets, however person in next seat (the father) wants to jump the queue and buy a second season ticket, that he intends to let his friends use.

I think I see the clubs point of view.

Now you have worded it like this i'm with you and think the club are within their right to do this.
 


Tom Hark Preston Park

Will Post For Cash
Jul 6, 2003
70,372
He does need it when he is here. I would rather fill the seat than have it empty when he's not.

Reckon you'd probably have kept under the club's radar by just quietly renewing until your lad reached full adult price. But by going public on 'I am prepared to pay over the odds' you've probably set alarm bells ringing in the club's hierarchy. Shame for sure, but what can you do?
 




drew

Drew
Oct 3, 2006
23,073
Burgess Hill
I honestly can see both sides of this coin.

On the one hand, your son has been a STH for at least a year (probably a lot more) more than those now on the ST waiting list. Given that you're prepared to pay full wack for the season, why shouldn't you be allowed to do so? After all, the club are in no worse financial position than if they sold that seat to another adult as a ST.

On the other hand, the club have announced a waiting list of 5k and the new ST allocation is 244. There's still 4.7k on the waiting list. They are presumably assuming that you'll take along an adult friend (who's not a STH and is lower on the ST waiting list than 244 - if they're on it at all) when your son can't go. Why else would you want to upgrade it to a full adult ST? Why should your friend get preferential treatment to a (part) ST over someone placed at 245 on the waiting list?

There's no easy answer to this that I can see. Incredibly irritating for sure, and arguably unfair. Arguably not unfair too though. A disgrace though? No, I don't think so - they have an impossible situation and they're trying to establish consistent workable rules in the new situation of having a 4.7k waiting list for ST.

I really feel for your situation.

Tend to agree, price of success and a regularly full stadium. Might be better in the long run just to keep it as it is and when he's back from Uni he upgrade to adult ticket anyway. Bit of a financial hit for three years. Hopefully he's not at the other end of the country and can get back reasonably regularly.
 


Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
50,223
Goldstone
He does need it when he is here. I would rather fill the seat than have it empty when he's not.
If that's all it is, then just let the club resell it on the dates he can't make.

Hopefully though, it will be as hkfc says, your son will actually be able to make quite a few games, and you'll be able to upgrade the ticket 6 times anyway.
 


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