Stop Funding Hate - Pathetic!

[GoldWithFalmer]

Blimey you're a bit touchy? Defensive much? I didn't say that at all?! In fact I cannot fathom how you got that impression from what I wrote at all,

Get your self on the Brexit threads,it;s the norm over there(from both sides)he means nothing by it at all..

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

The Mail and the Express have the right to promulgate their vile views, and readers have the right to subscribe to them - or reject them.

Similarly advertisers like Lego have the right to support these publications with advertising or alternatively to withdraw their funding.

Seems a pretty simple arrangement to me. I say well done Lego for taking a conscientious decision and it would be refreshing to see more big companies aligning their corporate philosophy with their media spend.

I know this is a long thread, and lots of replies, but this is the first I want to bite on. I struggle with this view - they have the right to promulgate their vile views. Yes, they're independent, yes I don't see how it can be stopped per se - but when you only publish one side of an argument, you're not publishing the truth, its just one side of a story. Its 'truthiness' as Stephen Colbert puts it, it sounds true but there's a lot more to it than that. You say readers have the right to reject these views, they do - but that's very very hard when they're not exposed to the counter argument.

All papers have their editorial pieces, comment and opinion pages, but they're tucked inside and you do get all views represented, certainly in the Telegraph, the Guardian, the Times. But too many of these papers, from the Mail to the Express to the Mirror editorialise on the front page, editorialise within headline stories, and editorialise on what they chose to cover.

The TV stations are regulated when it comes to being balanced on news, so why not the papers? But if it is to be legal to say what they want, then protests against them are perfectly fine too

 

[BBassic]

Ha! Fairs. Kidults are a bug bear of mine I'm afraid. I cannot stand all that stuff, in fact Mrs The Clamp sometimes refers to me as The Victorian Father, because I use traditional handkerchiefs and go for Sunday walks. I probably should lighten up but I'm too long in the tooth now.

I'm a fan of a Sunday walk myself but I am also a fan of snapping bits of Lego together until they look like the firehouse from Ghostbusters

Different strokes and all that. Just something different to spend the wages on. My other half spends hers on shoes and handbags. Now that's something I'll never understand. You can't move for the blasted things in our flat.

 

[The Clamp]

I'm a fan of a Sunday walk myself but I am also a fan of snapping bits of Lego together until they look like the firehouse from Ghostbusters

Different strokes and all that. Just something different to spend the wages on. My other half spends hers on shoes and handbags. Now that's something I'll never understand. You can't move for the blasted things in our flat.

Well, I apologise, I was a bit harsh. For me, if I'm going to take the time to build something is rather go into my workshop and make something lasting but as you say, horses for courses.

 

[Biscuit]

Get your self on the Brexit threads,it;s the norm over there(from both sides)he means nothing by it at all..

I'll chalk it up to him being a bit of a thicko then

 

[Perfidious Albion]

What ever happened to free speech and the right to think differently to the rest? On this day when the old soldiers march proudly up the High Street, surely the real values they were fighting for were freedom and tolerance.

Today,it seems that freedom of thought and expression is limited to those who follow the populist view promulgated by the media, whether that be normal or social media. Anyone thinking differently and retaining their views on traditional morals- whilst allowing others to have their opinion - is roundly denounced as the worst among men.

Is that really what our fathers fought and died for?

 

[Deleted member 22389]

Lego are the biggest ****ing sell out corporate shills out there. Hypocritical numpties. They sold out years ago when they started producing £400 licensed kits that allow for no imagination, just follow the instructions to build your pixelated, slightly naff Millenium Falcon. That should corner the nagging dollar and the idiotic "Kidults" who sit around playing games and high fiving other nerds at conventions dollar.

I loathe the Mail and all it stands for but these forms of media can, as well as being harmful, also act as a barometer for certain sections of the populations feelings.
In fact if the remain campaign had actually paid closer attention to the hysteria being spun by The Mail they could have directly addressed some of these issues. It was all outlined for them in The Mail, they could have used it as a bloody guidebook. Instead they told us world war 3 would happen.

I agree on your feelings towards lego. Where have the normal lego boxes gone?

 

[GoldWithFalmer]

I'll chalk it up to him being a bit of a thicko then

I would respectfully disagree.....

 

[BBassic]

Well, I apologise, I was a bit harsh. For me, if I'm going to take the time to build something is rather go into my workshop and make something lasting but as you say, horses for courses.

No apology needed fella.

I had plans once to build a window seat for the flat but I've never been good with DIY type things. Must be nice to be able to build things! I'm a touch jealous.

 

[Triggaaar]

People I know read the Mail and they are ordinary people, if that helps. I am not going to try to tell them they are not reading the 'correct' newspaper because I might not like its content. That would be a little arrogant.

You wouldn't have a problem with being arrogant if you were as brilliant as I am.

I presume that if this corporate campaign is successful then the witch hunt will gather
pace and other publications will be targeted. Who will be making the decision on which newspapers will be in the firing line ? I don't like the Sun so will I get to vote for them to be next ? Or do people prefer to go after the Times as they have always been a eurosceptic newspaper ?

I understand your point, but it's only the public reacting to right wing crap, and that's not really a bad thing. If someone decided the Times was next, people wouldn't agree and wouldn't support boycotts etc.

What we should be doing, is the same thing with FIFA sponsors, to get them to remove (or even reduce) their corruption.

 

[portslade seagull]

I'll chalk it up to him being a bit of a thicko then

Just can't help yourself. Says it all really

 

[vegster]

I have never bought the Daily Mail nor even read it. I am completely indifferent. This constant agitation against this newspaper seems to me to be more a coded attack on ordinary people (the readership). It's just metropolitan,middle class,snobbery.

You should try it at least once. Then you might try the Guardian too to see their perspective on the news. Over the last few years the papers have become ever more polarised with their own agendas. The Mail is saying that it is the real voice of middle England and the Guardian the home of free thinking liberal issues. There seems to be no middle ground any more as people these days seem to be constantly " Offended " on a daily basis. I'm not sure if it will get any better either.

 

[Two Professors]

This is just the latest chapter in the Left,the Green,and particularly Greenpeace,constantly harassing Lego.Somebody at Greenpeace must have stepped barefoot on a Lego brick as a child and never forgiven them.This vendetta must be the longest running one in corporate history and has probably made them extremely pliable to any critical pressure.

 

[LamieRobertson]

You should try it at least once. Then you might try the Guardian too to see their perspective on the news. Over the last few years the papers have become ever more polarised with their own agendas. The Mail is saying that it is the real voice of middle England and the Guardian the home of free thinking liberal issues. There seems to be no middle ground any more as people these days seem to be constantly " Offended " on a daily basis. I'm not sure if it will get any better either.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

You should try it at least once. Then you might try the Guardian too to see their perspective on the news. Over the last few years the papers have become ever more polarised with their own agendas. The Mail is saying that it is the real voice of middle England and the Guardian the home of free thinking liberal issues. There seems to be no middle ground any more as people these days seem to be constantly " Offended " on a daily basis. I'm not sure if it will get any better either.

OK, I will have a read ( just once). I blame YOU if I turn into a racist, bootboy, Trump
supporter !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Biscuit]

Just can't help yourself. Says it all really

You understood the point of that post then, well done!

 

[highflyer]

Disagree. The Daily Mail is absolutely brilliant at what it does. You may not like what it does, nor do I, but it's a simply fantastic ORGAN.

It is indeed. A massive great organ. Of hate and misinformation. Finally a bit of pushback gaining some momentum. No wonder some people aren't happy. Tough sh*t. The Mail, the Express and the Sun are being called out on decades of lying and hatemongering and using their power to attack anyone that questions their right to define this country in their own toxic image. At last! If you don't like the campaign you don't have to sign up by the way. Free country and all that.

 

[ThePompousPaladin]

I just thought by going after their funding source, they were trying to either change the paper's political stance or put them out of business.

I daresay that quite a few of them would probably like it out of business, but i think you're right, that wouldn't be very good for anyone.
Perhaps some of them want to just reign it in a bit. Most of it's content seems to be in the 'us vs them' style of rhetoric, which isn't very helpful when it comes to divisions in society.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

What ever happened to free speech ?

Has it ever existed? You must be aware you can't go around saying whatever you choose without some form of reaction.

 

[Hastings gull]

It is indeed. A massive great organ. Of hate and misinformation. Finally a bit of pushback gaining some momentum. No wonder some people aren't happy. Tough sh*t. The Mail, the Express and the Sun are being called out on decades of lying and hatemongering and using their power to attack anyone that questions their right to define this country in their own toxic image. At last! If you don't like the campaign you don't have to sign up by the way. Free country and all that.

Absolutely, you are free to ignore them. However, this is hardly their intent, is it, and therein lies the predictable leftie hypocrisy. Whilst the apologists are telling us that it is their right to self-express, the intention, as you well know, is to try and close the papers down, as they don't agree with the luvvies. As to what is toxic . . .