portslade seagull
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Some sadly cling to project fear and just can't seem to let it go. Rather like a spurned lover I suppose
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[Politics] Brexit
- Thread starter KingstonSeagull
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Some sadly cling to project fear and just can't seem to let it go. Rather like a spurned lover I suppose
portslade seagull
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The cramp has gone mysteriously quiet on this. Hasn't got the balls to back himself up. Maybe pimp or one of the others might take you up. I doubt it though
studio150
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Avoiding he question again, well done
studio150
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Not speculation but just a few examples of where solutions need to be found if we revoke all EU Regulation
How can i be avoiding the question if it does not apply to me. You posted your perceived scenario to me, it does not apply to me. Sorry.
Maybe his alter ego will take it up.
Lincoln Imp
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- Feb 2, 2009
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My apologies - I assumed that it would be clear that 'not on the ballot paper' was my shorthand for saying that many people voted Leave for reasons that were not connected with the EU - such as, for example, wanting to stick two fingers up to a leader they didn't like or to the south of England generally. As someone said, the skill of the Brexit campaign was that it could mean anything you wanted it to mean. You want a comedian for PM? Don't like Muslims? Dislike Frenchmen? Think the Germans are mass-murderers? Think the Daily Express is a newspaper? Want an excuse for not doing some rough old job? Love the lyrics of Land of Hope and Glory? Vote Brexit!
(And before some over-sensitive soul claims that I am saying ALL reasons for voting Leave were spurious, well I'm not saying that at all. But plenty were.)
Er, i think you will find that the South of England mainly stuck two fingers up at Remaining.
Me too, they have some terrible bunkers, especially in Berlin.
I agree, the shots you may have to take to negotiate European 'fairways' can be dangerous!
Lincoln Imp
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A greater proportion of voters in the south of England voted Remain than in the north of England.
In any case, wanting to stick two fingers up at the southern establishment was only one of the reasons mentioned for voting Leave. There were plenty of others. (EG: some of the women of Sunderland presumably voted Leave to increase the chances of quality time with their husbands during the working week.)
Two Professors
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So are you saying that the Germans did not commit mass murder?That all those men,women,and children voluntarily walked into gas chambers?Go and give your head a really big wobble.
Two Professors
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Quiet on here.The Crimp must have gone back to his 'speshul skool'.Hope he did his homework 
Lincoln Imp
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I think it's your head that needs a wobble. If you can find any reference to me suggesting that Germans under the Nazis didn't commit mass murder then share it with me. To suggest that they are mass murderers now is akin to saying that the English are slave traders. Try moving into the current century or, better still, read things properly before reaching for your keyboard.
Two Professors
Two Mad Professors
So you didn't write 'If you think the Germans are mass murderers' vote Brexit?Did some big boys hijack your keyboard and then run away?
You seem to suggest that because things happened in the 20th century,they don't matter any more,saying I need to move into the current century.As you seem to be such a forgiving person,can I ask your views on other bad things that happened over 17 years ago-should they all be forgiven now?
There is nobody alive today from when the British (not just English) were involved in the slave trade,whereas germans are still being prosecuted for the Holocaust,so your comparison is utterly pointless.
Lincoln Imp
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I don't know what to say really. I provided the line "If you think the Germans are mass murderers" as one of many reasons people might find for voting the way they did.
The Nazis, as you certainly know, were democratically elected 83 years ago on the back of a populist, kick-out-the-foreigners, make-our-country-great-again ticket - they often work - and then carried out the most unspeakable horrors. They were defeated 12 years later and now, 71 years on, most of us no longer regard Germans as the devil incarnate. Most of us that is.
Yes, I forgive Germans for what was carried out in their name before 99 per cent of them reached adulthood. I hope too that the perpetrators of terrible crimes and injustices since then will be forgiven, providing they show contrition, by those who suffered. There are have many many examples since the war but they do include events in pre-partition India, Kenya and Aden. I'd hate to think that Two Professors would be spat at today because of them.
Two Professors
Two Mad Professors
Your grasp of demographics is a bit weak,but then you Remoaners aren't very good with numbers are you,tending to make them up as you go along and hope nobody notices!So in this spirit of forgiveness,can the Sun be forgiven for all it's alleged heinous crimes prior to 2001?Bill Archer?IRA?Tony Bliar?
Lincoln Imp
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I haven't got much of a clue what you are talking about.
What demographics that I have a weak grasp of are you referring to? What numbers am I making up? (As far as the bit at the end is concerned, I THINK you are trying to compare how we view individual miscreants such as Bill Archer with how relations between nation states should be conducted but that's a bit crazy so I must be wrong.)
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portslade seagull
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Bloody hard to chip out off. Nice courses though