Scientology

[Dorset Seagull]

That was on TV as one of his programmes a couple of years ago.
It was all very odd.

Maybe something different as the film was previewed at the London Film theatre in oct 2015 so sounds more recent than the one you saw

 

[Grassman]

I challenge that my clear thinking is a not a religion. It is through my clear thinking that I gain perspective on the real world. I don't fall for what are obviously false religions and I am grateful that many on this message board are not followers of the false religions. I encourage everyone on this board to find a group of Scientologists and have an audit done on the engrams of your life. It is unbelievably a true enlightenment and leads to ever clearer thinking.

and yet you live in Darlington....not very clear thinking of you.

 

[Raleigh Chopper]

Maybe something different as the film was previewed at the London Film theatre in oct 2015 so sounds more recent than the one you saw

Ah,ok didnt know that.
But i remember a documentary on it, it might not even had been Louis, but it was interesting, once they realised who he was he was locked out of meetings and badly threatened.

 

[Raleigh Chopper]

Ah, here it is. Interesting stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOXNVqkJQZQ

 

[pishhead]

Wasn't Hubbard the most prolific science fiction writer if all time?
If so that explains a lot.

 

[symyjym]

They had a small shop just off Duke Street, always hanging around asking youngsters to do a "survey". I was nabbed as a 17 yr old but it was all a load of bollox.

I remember being hassled there in the 80’s. They were selling books and taking peoples details. I gave them 10 minutes of my time but didn’t take it seriously. I didn’t even know what scientology was in those days.

 

[Cian]

Wasn't Hubbard the most prolific science fiction writer if all time?
If so that explains a lot.

Definitely not the most prolific - that mad vicar who used to present Fortean TV used to knock a book out every 2 weeks at one stage and there are many like him.

However, he wrote an awful lot of scifi very similar to the "religion" he'd later invent... some of which seems to be treated as if its a religious work even though it was sold as sci-fi, resulting in the woeful Battlefield Earth movie.

 

[Surrey_Albion]

On what evidence do you base this (ridiculous) judgement?

Scientology would not even count for most people as a religion. It's a sect.

It's no more believable or real as any other religion,there more "proof" of ufo and little green men than of a god and if you're a beleiver in any religion I personally feel you have no right to judge any other beleive. .....as an atheist I think it's all a little silly to be honest

 

[Surrey_Albion]

If you talk of evidence David in Southampton there is nothing but a few books and absolutely NO evidence for a god

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

If you talk of evidence David in Southampton there is nothing but a few books and absolutely NO evidence for a god

So you don't believe in love then.

 

[Surrey_Albion]

So you don't believe in love then.

I beleive natural tendencies to protect and care for our children with our lives and the physical and emotional caring of another (i.e partner) through attraction and shared experiences so if that's what you call love then yes I do but I have no idea what that has to do with god

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

I beleive natural tendencies to protect and care for our children with our lives and the physical and emotional caring of another (i.e partner) through attraction and shared experiences so if that's what you call love then yes I do but I have no idea what that has to do with god

Love is just a human construct. There is no proof it's a real thing.

 

[Surrey_Albion]

Love is just a human construct. There is no proof it's a real thing.

Other animals "love" they care for their young and mate, so I'm still not sure what your point is here, "love" is like any emotion are you saying if I'm angry at southern rail being cuts then god must exist because I'm angry

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

Other animals "love" they care for their young and mate, so I'm still not sure what your point is here, "love" is like any emotion are you saying if I'm angry at southern rail being cuts then god must exist because I'm angry

Animals don't love.

I'm saying even an atheist believes in things that aren't real based on nothing more than what they percieve an internal feeling means to them.

 

[Surrey_Albion]

Animals don't love.

I'm saying even an atheist believes in things that aren't real based on nothing more than what they percieve an internal feeling means to them.

We are animals,why arent we?? Thats a mad statement,we ARE animals like every other but with better communication skills and imaginary freinds! as above we (all animals) care for our young and mate,what is your definition of love if I haven't covered it above??

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

We are animals,why arent we?? Thats a mad statement,we ARE animals like every other but with better communication skills and imaginary freinds! as above we (all animals) care for our young and mate,what is your definition of love if I haven't covered it above??

You're conflating a made up concept(love) with a natural hardwiring which is present to ensure species keep on producing in order to survive.

I'm simply pointing out that the basis on which you believe in love is the same premice as someone who believes in a god applies.

You don't require evidence because you base it on a "feeling", not on anything tangible.

And no, I'm not an animal, I'm a human being.

 

[Surrey_Albion]

You're conflating a made up concept(love) with a natural hardwiring which is present to ensure species keep on producing in order to survive.

I'm simply pointing out that the basis on which you believe in love is the same premice as someone who believes in a god applies.

You don't require evidence because you base it on a "feeling", not on anything tangible.

And no, I'm not an animal, I'm a human being.

So you mean romantic love A thing that started as a natural hardwiring that we have as a pack animal that natural hardwiring feeling that we evolved in ourselves and in society to become "love" . We are made to "love" but due to our social skills etc it has become part of our mating habits to create "romantic love" . Let me honest would you grab hold of a lady who was bent over and just give her one?? No....you deserve ask her out,take her to dinner ,find your pheromones make you attractive to each other along with your shared interests. .......then after a few years you get used to the pheromones and the excitement and realise you're protective of her and care about her but you now want to shag other people because they look new and have different pherymones which work on you and you're bored.........yep that's "love" alright. But as for god no he isn't there and nothing even your bizarre and vague questions of love will make me beleive I'm afraid. The world would be a much nicer place if we all realised were only here once and for just a short time,maybe then we would all be kinder to each other,work less,help each other more,enjoy life,stop killing each other,understanding more,less greedy and more forgiving

 

[Surrey_Albion]

You're conflating a made up concept(love) with a natural hardwiring which is present to ensure species keep on producing in order to survive.

I'm simply pointing out that the basis on which you believe in love is the same premice as someone who believes in a god applies.

You don't require evidence because you base it on a "feeling", not on anything tangible.

And no, I'm not an animal, I'm a human being.

Please explain how the human race are not an animal as that's just weird, does having an imaginary freind not only make you ignorant but better than any other species? Your logic of "I have a feeling" means people with mental illnesses or dementia could be more in touch with god as they experience feelings that aren't real?? For instance I know someone who suffers from paranoia, he thinks everyone is watching him,he feels they are and senses they are.....they AREN'T but because he feels it it must be true

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

So you mean romantic love A thing that started as a natural hardwiring that we have as a pack animal that natural hardwiring feeling that we evolved in ourselves and in society to become "love" . We are made to "love" but due to our social skills etc it has become part of our mating habits to create "romantic love" . Let me honest would you grab hold of a lady who was bent over and just give her one?? No....you deserve ask her out,take her to dinner ,find your pheromones make you attractive to each other along with your shared interests. .......then after a few years you get used to the pheromones and the excitement and realise you're protective of her and care about her but you now want to shag other people because they look new and have different pherymones which work on you and you're bored.........yep that's "love" alright. But as for god no he isn't there and nothing even your bizarre and vague questions of love will make me beleive I'm afraid. The world would be a much nicer place if we all realised were only here once and for just a short time,maybe then we would all be kinder to each other,work less,help each other more,enjoy life,stop killing each other,understanding more,less greedy and more forgiving

Romance is just posturing to impress a potential mate to get laid.

Nothing you just said is evidence of "love". All you described was the proverbial peacock feather show.

How you justify love is how a belief in a God is justified. To someone who has faith there's plenty of evidence to them of something else.

I can just as easily dismiss love as you can dismiss a God.

 

[BadFish]

Romance is just posturing to impress a potential mate to get laid.

Nothing you just said is evidence of "love". All you described was the proverbial peacock feather show.

How you justify love is how a belief in a God is justified. To someone who has faith there's plenty of evidence to them of something else.

I can just as easily dismiss love as you can dismiss a God.

i would agree with you here. They are both man made concepts used to explain an experienced phenomenon.

Having said that though this is where the similarity ends as the phenomenons that they are seeking to explain are entirely different.