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Prince Monolulu

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Andrea Leadsom

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Dame Vera Lynn

Yes , Yes
 




vegster

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What will be really interesting will be to see just how dedicated the left-wingers are now to feminism when they insult Leadsom or May. Will they resort to sexist, gender-specific insults as many did to Thatcher?

Not me. May is good. But the actiists will vote Leadbrain. Brexitter. then it will be anti blair Corbs (the new 'told you so') versus anti 21st century CV-liar Leadbrain. I'd prefer May, and I'm a lefty (supposedly). What a MESS!
 


dingodan

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Feb 16, 2011
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Leadsome is scary, a bible reader in Parliament whose every value is driven by her religious beliefs.

"I would have preferred....marriage to have a remained a Christian service for men and women who wanted to commit in the eyes of God"

She doesn't however believe that two people who love each other should have that love recognised by the state in the form of marriage, if they happen to be of the same gender, or even people such as myself, who have no religious belief.

That's not exactly true. If you listen to what she actually said in full. You are selectively quoting only pieces of what she said to make her sound like a bigot. She also said that the love of same sex couples is every bit as valuable as that of opposite sex couples. She was defending the Christian view of the sacrament of marriage, which is viewed by most Christians to be between a man and a woman, a view she also says she doesn't personally agree with.

She also did not vote against same sex marriage, she positively abstained, which means she voted both for and against it in the same vote. It sounded to me like she would have liked on the one hand to protect the Church from being forced to conduct itself in a way which goes against it's own beliefs (which she does not share), while working for the rights of all couples (gay or straight) to be, as you say, "recognised by the state", through other forms of marriage like civil partnerships etc.

I also think that implying that someone is unsavory because of their religious beliefs is just as offensive and ugly as doing so because of their sexuality.
 


W.C.

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Oct 31, 2011
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I also think that implying that someone is unsavory because of their religious beliefs is just as offensive and ugly as doing so because of their sexuality.

Your sexuality doesn't affect the lives of others. Religious beliefs often do.
 




Hugo Rune

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Our next Prime Minister will be a woman...

I also think that implying that someone is unsavory because of their religious beliefs is just as offensive and ugly as doing so because of their sexuality.

Fair enough. I'm not going to imply she is unsavoury because of her religious beliefs. Instead I'm going to categorically state that she IS unsavoury because of her views on fox hunting and fracking.
 


El Presidente

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Jul 5, 2003
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Apparently some of May's opponents are whispering that she wouldn't be up to the job because she has diabetes.

With friends like those in the Tory party, who needs enemies?
 


Blue Valkyrie

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Sep 1, 2012
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Leadsome is right wing Tory like Redwood, IDS, Howard. I'd prefer a slightly more red 'one nation' Tory.
 
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ManOfSussex

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She also did not vote against same sex marriage, she positively abstained, which means she voted both for and against it in the same vote. It sounded to me like she would have liked on the one hand to protect the Church from being forced to conduct itself in a way which goes against it's own beliefs (which she does not share), while working for the rights of all couples (gay or straight) to be, as you say, "recognised by the state", through other forms of marriage like civil partnerships etc.

Yes, she abstained from the vote, but as the Church and the clergy was exempt from performing same sex marriages in the act of parliament it sounds to me like her church was well protected from being forced to conduct itself in a way that goes against its own beliefs. A civil marriage, is a civil marriage recognised by the state, whether same sex or not. Canon Law of The Church Of England was quite safe. Sounds to me like she just couldn't bring herself to vote for a progressive, inclusive change in the law.
 










Biscuit

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Jul 8, 2003
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Not sure what gender brings to the party to be honest I find it pretty irrelevant. I'd have plumped for the title 'Our next Prime Minister will be anti Gay Rights.'
 








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