[Politics] Brexit

[Bold Seagull]

Someone needs to stand up and let people know what is happening next. With the country split so much what is needed is strong leadership and clear direction of how this is all going to work. Boris looking terrified is helping no-one.

The Leave slogan was 'Take Back Control'.

That seems almost laughable now in the context of no one wanting to take control.

 

[Deleted member 2719]

We live in a democracy where it's vote per person, not one vote per 'A' level, so the Remain whiners should zip it.

Whilst the decision will in all probability be bad for the economy, many of those who voted out see/have seen no benefits in globalisation, free trade or migration, and therefore did what they thought was logical.


Sent from Konnie Huq's lingerie drawer.

I sort of agree with what your saying but in probability terms Leicester City were going to be relegated last year.

So if we build the right team and work as one the world is our oyster.
I personally am not worried in a dip in form as I believe as a country we have more than enough entrepreneurs to keep our economy strong, how exciting is that.

But we do need to put a a few Sulky Remainers in the naughty corner until they shut the f**k up.

 

[looney]

No one has said what we're going to expect.

We had the shock of a Leave vote, the markets dropping, our prime minister resigning, and one gloating buffoon.

So where was the leadership to tell us what would happen, who had a speech to reassure us of our bright new future? Who had the balls to get up and sound prepared for this outcome, how we'd go about forming a plan!?

No one did. No one has. The silence is deafening. Gove and Johnson ducked it like two schoolboys caught burning their pens in the Bunsen burners, with the acrid air filling the classroom.

Yes I voted Remain. But even Leave voters must have expected more political motivation than this!!??

Take our country back, more like shit their pants...

Its been 2 days. Friday and Saturday, in which the Prime Minister has resigned. Its in processes, stop projecting panic and confusion on the wrong people! be a bit Patient.

Once a new PM is appointed article 50 will be in acted then negotiations take place. Like the eU I hope its quick, the danger is uncertainty, doom mongering.

 

[Jim in the West]

The decision has been made, there's a huge amount of hard work ahead, time to knuckle down and get on with it.

I didn't vote leave but that's irrelevant, in a democracy you should respect the decision. Calling for a second vote is just being a bad loser, it's a bit like trying to unshag someone when you had beer goggles on the previous night.

Agreed - I voted Remain, and I'm very upset at the result. However, we can't change the rules now. The main thing is that we negotiate an appropriate new relationship. And that HAS to recognise that over 48% of the voting population do not want to leave the EU. Amongst the many further complicating factors is that the Leave campaign didn't have a vision of what a Brexit actually looks like, so there will have to be a lot of "interpretation" of the will of the majority. Chris Grayling wants to retain free movement of people, for example, whilst obviously Farage and his gang definitely do NOT.

 

[Tesco in Disguise]

People who refer to the calling of a second referendum 'undemocratic' clearly don't understand the definition of that word.

 

[Bold Seagull]

I sort of agree with what your saying but in probability terms Leicester City were going to be relegated last year.

So if we build the right team and work as one the world is our oyster.
I personally am not worried in a dip in form as I believe as a country we have more than enough entrepreneurs to keep our economy strong, how exciting is that.

But we do need to put a a few Sulky Remainers in the naughty corner until they shut the f**k up.

Leicester, through some cosmic alignment got the right squad for the right manager at the right time of his career timed with the right season of competitors being off their game.

What we needed was our Ranieri to stand up Friday, and tell us that we'll all get pizza and be happy once he sorts it out.

How can anyone be excited when no one knows what the hell is going on what's going to happen or when?

Surely Leavers are also anxious? How can anyone know their reason for leaving will be fulfilled? No one has won at this point.

 

[KZNSeagull]

Jesus wept that is wrong.


And we didn't even vote on booting people out.

We simply voted on whether or not we stay in the EU. Nothing more.

Well we know that, but clearly some do not. There were so many different reasons why people voted leave, this is one, spending the mysterious 350m quid a week on the NHS is another and there are many more. I am not surprised at this and it is a direct failure of the remain camp to counter these arguments decisively.

What is required now is decisive leadership to try to nip this in the bud but that is precisely what the UK does not have at the moment, so it will be exploited by all sorts I'm afraid.

 

[BN9 BHA]

Perhaps you ought to examine the thousands of small and medium sized business owners, who are the life-blood of this country, who voted to leave. Just go and ask some of them why they voted as they did. These are the real wealth creators and have their finger on the pulse. They are educated, driven and positive. These are the people looking forward. These are the people that will keep this country on track. You won't hear doom and gloom from these people. Whilst all the hand-wringing and wailing and gnashing of teeth is going on, they are still employing millions of people and paying their taxes in the UK.
Politicians don't create wealth. They squander hard earned money. It amazes me that so many are prepared to put their faith in faceless bureaucrats, who are, first and foremost, paying themselves fortunes and looking after themselves. To trust the political elite in Brussels is misplaced and misguided faith.

Good post.

 

[Seagull58]

No one has said what we're going to expect.

We had the shock of a Leave vote, the markets dropping, our prime minister resigning, and one gloating buffoon.

So where was the leadership to tell us what would happen, who had a speech to reassure us of our bright new future? Who had the balls to get up and sound prepared for this outcome, how we'd go about forming a plan!?

No one did. No one has. The silence is deafening. Gove and Johnson ducked it like two schoolboys caught burning their pens in the Bunsen burners, with the acrid air filling the classroom.

Yes I voted Remain. But even Leave voters must have expected more political motivation than this!!??

Take our country back, more like shit their pants...

Gove and Johnson are not the government of the day. They have no authority to enact an action plan. The government called the referendum and it is the government's responsibility to put the result into action.

 

[Mackenzie]

No one has said what we're going to expect.

We had the shock of a Leave vote, the markets dropping, our prime minister resigning, and one gloating buffoon.

So where was the leadership to tell us what would happen, who had a speech to reassure us of our bright new future? Who had the balls to get up and sound prepared for this outcome, how we'd go about forming a plan!?

No one did. No one has. The silence is deafening. Gove and Johnson ducked it like two schoolboys caught burning their pens in the Bunsen burners, with the acrid air filling the classroom.

Yes I voted Remain. But even Leave voters must have expected more political motivation than this!!??

Take our country back, more like shit their pants...

I agree, it feels like we're in a vacuum, a void, where the country requires clear leadership but hasn't got a leader or In fact any clue as to what to do now. In the mean time I see the value of the pound plummeting, businesses relocating abroad, the spectre of interest rate hikes, yet more pressures on public services (which are already stretched) the absolute certainty of increases in the cost of living and a lowering of living standards.

This isn't about sides or personalities, that is pathetic, it's about people struggling.

What is the upside to all of this self inflicted pain?

 

[Mayonaise]

By definition supporting Remain is down grading sovereignty and democracy

Not at all. I voted Remain purely because I prefer partnerships over isolation.

For me it is the loss of the UK as a union that will really hurt. I am English and am proud to be so but I place a high value on our relationships with our friends and partners - notably with the rest of the UK first and foremost and this result will lead to the break up of the union. I see this as a disaster for England - you of course are free to disagree and I respect your right to hold a different view.

As for Europe, again I see friends and partnerships, people to work with to further our mutual benefit - rather than them and us. Yes there is a lot wrong with both the UK (we can't even run a train service) and the EU but for me, staying in and trying to help make things better is preferable to picking up the ball and going home.

In my view, the leaders of both Remain & Leave campaigns should hang their in shame. Both sides have told outrageous lies whilst harbouring nothing more than agendas for personal gain. The country is now bitterly divided and I fear could remain so for some time to come.

Things will get better, we will recover. My own father (in his 70s) voted leave - I just hope he lives long enough to see for himself the fruits of what he and others has sown.

As for your point about sneering, I am not sneering. Far from it... I am worried for our future. I sincerely hope my fears are unfounded and that those who voted leave turn out to be right. I will never be more happy to be wrong on any other issue.

 

[RustyKent]

Newsnight's Evan Davis loses it with Brexit leader who admits immigration WON'T be cut

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/newsnights-evan-davis-loses-brexit-8281875

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

About the lack of them which kind of proves my point, Your boy Choudry on the other hand likes the EU for how it protects his chums who are keen to use bullets in the UK.

No it doesn't . The fact that Farage even mentioned bullets is chilling.
And don't make outrageous and libellous comments about me supporting a terrorist sympathiser.
Now give it a rest.

 

[Bold Seagull]

Gove and Johnson are not the government of the day. They have no authority to enact an action plan. The government called the referendum and it is the government's responsibility to put the result into action.

Theyre both in the government!! How can you absolve them of any responsibility to show some statesman like confidence to the nation?

 

[Deleted member 22389]

Someone needs to stand up and let people know what is happening next. With the country split so much what is needed is strong leadership and clear direction of how this is all going to work. Boris looking terrified is helping no-one.

You are completely right, shit we agreed again lol. This country now needs a plan. The blaming needs to stop, and we all need to start trying to be a bit more positive.

As for Boris and Gove I bet they wished they never got involved, because now they have to step up to the plate and deliver, Boris more so.

 

[looney]

Looks like the sheeple finally woke up on the 23rd.

 

[looney]

No it doesn't . The fact that Farage even mentioned bullets is chilling.
And don't make outrageous and libellous comments about me supporting a terrorist sympathiser.
Now give it a rest.

Libelous? LOL Your boy choudry wasa response to your boy Farage. Both were spokesmen on either side of the debate. If you can judge me purely on the company I keep then so can I, suck it up buttercup.

 

[The Clamp]

I wouldn't be surprised if article 50 never gets filed. Referendums are not legally binding and I imagine the new leader will just negotiate some better terms to remain and this will all blow over.

 

[BadFish]

You are completely right, shit we agreed again lol. This country now needs a plan. The blaming needs to stop, and we all need to start trying to be a bit more positive.

As for Boris and Gove I bet they wished they never got involved, because now they have to step up to the plate and deliver, Boris more so.

Yep, agreed

 

[WATFORD zero]

Why all the negativity ?

Why don't people look for the positives. If i wasn't old, past it and retired I would be setting up a company to outsource Government administration. It'll be the biggest growing industry in Britain over the next 3 years

There's gold in them there hills