A few Albion 'fans' being nationalistic ****s on the train last night...a rare occurrence?

[daveinprague]

The facts are the IRA are scum, ISIS are scum, terrorism is wrong. So why the **** would any normal human being be offended about anybody singing or speaking out against these terrorists ?

Hopefully, some drunk people singing it will stem the terror from the IRA.
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[brighton bluenose]

It's sung by Unionist and Loyalists in NI and is the no surrender bit is the chorus. I know the start of it has something about St. George and the cross etc. I'm not sure of the full verse or song. But a friend of mine did 3 tours of NI in the 90's it was sang along with many many others in Protestant pubs and bars. It's a sectarian song. I don't really understand why someone would sing it at an Albion game. I've heard it following England along with the cringey 'German Bombers' song.
It is what it is, I can understand if you were Irish it might be a bit corncerning. Not because the people singing it hate the IRA, that's fair enough, but because the song has a sectarian history. If you hear that song and you're Irish, it means the people singing it are anti Catholic, anti Irish and as a result a sectarian. However I'm sure the people Irish people in question, realised they were just pissed up twats and not sectarian in any way.

I am afraid you are talking complete and utter nonsense!
There are no 'verses' just a repetition of what you describe as the chorus - it really is that simple!
As a Rangers fan (as well as BHAFC obviously) I have heard this ditty sang on a fair few ocassions both in Belfast and Glasgow and have never heard any 'verses' and certainly never heard any loyalists or Rangers fans singing about St George!!

 

[tomfitz12]

Couldnt give a shit frankly. The IRA were terrorists, so people can sing whatever they want about them and if YOU dont like that, YOU can sod off back to your own country.

Prick.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Time to update that old classic.

'No surrender to the ISIS scum' or

'No surrender to the so called Islamic state' or

'Total capitulation in case we cause offence' or

none of the above... hope that covers all pov

 

[BN9 BHA]

No they don't anymore. Sectarian chanting is banned from Scottish football.

Banned singing in Scottish football stadiums, fans still sing the songs in pubs and in the street.

Shoplifting is illegal but it goes on every day.

 

[Megazone]

Banned singing in Scottish football stadiums, fans still sing the songs in pubs and in the street.

Shoplifting is illegal but it goes on every day.

Why do you think it's been banned?

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I don't understand why anybody would be offended about standing up against terrorism

If you don't understand then fine.

 

[The Wookiee]

Hopefully, some drunk people singing it will stem the terror from the IRA.
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Of course not, but no need for people to be offended by drunk blokes slagging off terrorists

 

[The Wookiee]

If you don't understand then fine.

So is it wrong to voice an opinion against terrorists ??

 

[Hampster Gull]

That's the trouble with you being a foreigner, you wouldn't understand that they (the IRA) were the other side , and they murdered lots of people from the "side" you claim to be a part of , and lots of people from that side who did lose loved ones don't find it as easy to move on as a New Zealander who wasn't affected in any way, and , and take a bit of offence at being told to do so.

As with all such problems there are at least two sides and many views. The narrow minded are blinded

 

[daveinprague]

Of course not, but no need for people to be offended by drunk blokes slagging off terrorists

I dont think anybody has been. Did anybody say there were offended? The indignance seems to be from people as to why people should not be able to sing drunken songs about terrorists that are not particularly relevant in the world scheme of things.

Think its a bit bizarre to be honest.

 

[BN9 BHA]

Why do you think it's been banned?

Why do I think songs slagging off our Queen or praising terrorism have been banned?
Because they are offensive.

 

[The Wookiee]

I dont think anybody has. Did anybody say there were offended? The indignance seems to be from people as to why people should not sing drunken songs abourt terrorists that are not particularly relevant in the world scheme of things.

Think its a bit bizarre to be honest.

Read the OP, it's about people being offended about blokes slagging off the IRA ! Rightly or wrongly, any normal person, Irish or not should not be offended by anybody either singing or talking about slagging off terrorists

 

[Raleigh Chopper]

Nothing new the song is sung down here in the south west on a regular basis aimed at Cornish republicans (OAA)
No surrender
No surrender
No surrender to the ooh arr ay
No surrender to the ooh arr ay

 

[Megazone]

Read the OP, it's about people being offended about blokes slagging off the IRA ! Rightly or wrongly, any normal person, Irish or not should not be offended by anybody either singing or talking about slagging off terrorists

What does "slagging off terrorists" actually achieve?

 

[daveinprague]

Read the OP, it's about people being offended about blokes slagging off the IRA ! Rightly or wrongly, any normal person, Irish or not should not be offended by anybody either singing or talking about slagging off terrorists

He said it 'wasnt a great experience'.
Im not sure if his relatives were Irish, but if it was directed at them, because of their nationality, then yeah, I imagine it would not be a great experience.

If it wasnt directed at them, I find it even more bizarre, that Brighton fans would be singing it, in this day and age.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

So is it wrong to voice an opinion against terrorists ??

Like the chaps on the train, this discussion is also getting tedious. All I said is I can understand why some, not me, might get offended by a group of guys singing certain songs. I really do not think this is a very difficult idea to grasp.

 

[melias shoes]

So what, should we support the IRA ?......you have to be on a wind up surely.

Clearly.

 

[Albumen]

Who was the message aimed at? Was Gerry Adams getting off at London Road?
Strange if you ask me.

 

[Justice]

The bobble hats always seem shocked these days when BHA have a few lads out.