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Bob!

Coffee Buyer
Jul 5, 2003
11,152
People just do not appreciate what we would lose playing Rosenior at left back. It would totally disrupt our style and formation which has got us top of the league.

How would playing a Premier League left back at left back disrupt our formation?
 






Betfair Bozo

Well-known member
Jul 24, 2007
2,098
Don't be a dreamer, he would be awful - lets get Alan Navarro back. I know he didn't play there but his weaker foot is less weak than the strong foot of a less agile player when injured in their weak foot.

That's not a bad idea PRS but how about this? Use one of the right footed players but have him facing the other way thus making his strong right foot a replacement left foot?
 


atomised

Well-known member
Mar 21, 2013
5,119
I've got it. Bobby is left footed, can't get a Start up front, stick him at left back and we can keep rew p rosenior in the position we've been playing him in.
 


perseus

Broad Blue & White stripe
Jul 5, 2003
23,458
Sūþseaxna
Is that why you suggested Holla a few posts ago. Whenever anyone mentions Holla PACE is all that I can think of.

I don't know the answer top out left-sided deficiency which I predicted at he beginning of the season if we got an injury. Forster-Caskey is not the answer. Holla can defend better than him.

I don't know about Holla. I asked some Dutch supporters and they were only mildly enthusiastic about his set pieces. Nothing to say about the rest of his play which was implied to be rather ordinary. He made a vital block against Preston.


Opposition: e.g. Derby with Warnock and Forsyth are notably better covered in the left back position. I doubt if all the contendors are. Left back is a difficult position to fill. Sheff Wed seem OK.

I have only just remembered that Chicksen is already out on loan.

I still ascribe to total football. Players should be able to adapt a bit better to different positions. Albion have quite a few specialists. Although not really a left back, I used to like Stephen Ward who came up and scored a vital goal two seasons ago.
 




GT49er

Well-known member
Feb 1, 2009
46,840
Gloucester
That's not a bad idea PRS but how about this? Use one of the right footed players but have him facing the other way thus making his strong right foot a replacement left foot?
No need to get bl00dy ridiculous. Just send him out with his boots on the opposite feet to usual - problem solved.
 




Munkfish

Well-known member
May 1, 2006
11,879
I don't know the answer top out left-sided deficiency which I predicted at he beginning of the season if we got an injury. Forster-Caskey is not the answer. Holla can defend better than him.

I don't know about Holla. I asked some Dutch supporters and they were only mildly enthusiastic about his set pieces. Nothing to say about the rest of his play which was implied to be rather ordinary. He made a vital block against Preston.


Opposition: e.g. Derby with Warnock and Forsyth are notably better covered in the left back position. I doubt if all the contendors are. Left back is a difficult position to fill. Sheff Wed seem OK.

I have only just remembered that Chicksen is already out on loan.

I still ascribe to total football. Players should be able to adapt a bit better to different positions. Albion have quite a few specialists. Although not really a left back, I used to like Stephen Ward who came up and scored a vital goal two seasons ago.

Why are you ignoring all the facts about Rosenoir and suggesting JFC and Holla? I cant seem to understand your logic.
 






BensGrandad

New member
Jul 13, 2003
72,015
Haywards Heath
How would playing a Premier League left back at left back disrupt our formation?

A relegated Premier left back, not deemed good enough by his old club in that position for The Championship so released, who has been a revelation for us playing on his natural right side but in midfield losing him playing there would obviously disrupt our approach play.
 






perseus

Broad Blue & White stripe
Jul 5, 2003
23,458
Sūþseaxna
Why are you ignoring all the facts about Rosenoir and suggesting JFC and Holla? I cant seem to understand your logic.

What I am saying is that I do not think "inverted full backs" are a good idea in the long term (or even in the medium term or short term), but may work when playing against inverted wingers who cut inside.

When at a pinch in a game with an injury the left-sided midfielder may slot in as an emergency (e.g. Orlandi did this once), but I don't think Forster-Caskey or March would be good enough at defending.

Just hope Bong recovers quickly as their is no obvious replacement.
 


atomised

Well-known member
Mar 21, 2013
5,119
A relegated Premier left back, not deemed good enough by his old club in that position for The Championship so released, who has been a revelation for us playing on his natural right side but in midfield losing him playing there would obviously disrupt our approach play.

That's funny. Wayne bridge was deemed not good enough for that position by a premier league club too.
 


Munkfish

Well-known member
May 1, 2006
11,879
What I am saying is that I do not think "inverted full backs" are a good idea in the long term (or even in the medium term or short term), but may work when playing against inverted wingers who cut inside.

When at a pinch in a game with an injury the left-sided midfielder may slot in as an emergency (e.g. Orlandi did this once), but I don't think Forster-Caskey or March would be good enough at defending.

Just hope Bong recovers quickly as their is no obvious replacement.

I guess you never saw Paul Watson playing at right back for the Albion then.
 






lawros left foot

Glory hunting since 1969
Jun 11, 2011
13,738
Worthing
IF we need a replacement left back cos Liam Rosenier gets injured/suspended, how about Jose Enrique of Liverpool. He appears to be well down the pecking order there, he's Spanish, so would fit right in here, and he wouldn't be a bad player at this level
 


beefypigeon

Well-known member
Aug 14, 2008
960
What I am saying is that I do not think "inverted full backs" are a good idea in the long term (or even in the medium term or short term), but may work when playing against inverted wingers who cut inside.

When at a pinch in a game with an injury the left-sided midfielder may slot in as an emergency (e.g. Orlandi did this once), but I don't think Forster-Caskey or March would be good enough at defending.

Just hope Bong recovers quickly as their is no obvious replacement.

I really don't see 'Inverted full backs' being much of an issue, particularly defensively. We are talking about professional footballers here, players who are perfectly capable of using both feet. They don't need to be particularly accurate with their weak foot in that position, most of the time it'll be a simple pass down the line or a booted clearance.

However, the 'downside' to this is when you consider how Bong contributes offensively, as he regularly overlaps. Playing a right footed player on the left side will likely reduce penetration down that side, and if they do overlap, the quality of the ball coming in won't be quite as good.
 


RyFish

Active member
Dec 6, 2011
281
What I am saying is that I do not think "inverted full backs" are a good idea in the long term (or even in the medium term or short term), but may work when playing against inverted wingers who cut inside.

When at a pinch in a game with an injury the left-sided midfielder may slot in as an emergency (e.g. Orlandi did this once)...

And also did that in his solitary league appearance for Barcelona, I believe.
 




perseus

Broad Blue & White stripe
Jul 5, 2003
23,458
Sūþseaxna
I guess you never saw Paul Watson playing at right back for the Albion then.

I thought someone might come out with that. That was probably the reason I am opposed to inverted full backs. Distribution was always inside into the crowded midfield.
 


BensGrandad

New member
Jul 13, 2003
72,015
Haywards Heath
That's funny. Wayne bridge was deemed not good enough for that position by a premier league club too.

The difference being that he wasnt deemed good enough by a premier side to play in The Premier in Liams case he wasnt deemed good enough to play in the lower league Championship at left back. He has been fantastic for us hence I do not want to lose his right sided influence by playing him at left back.
 


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