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Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
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Out of interest when did Corbyn make this statement about the Falklands?
 




Guinness Boy

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Jul 23, 2003
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Out of interest when did Corbyn make this statement about the Falklands?

He's suggested joint administration on a couple of occasions and was congratulated by the Argentine government very specifically on his election. However he's never said he will give up sovereignty. That's why my original mention of it said IF HE DID and not WHEN HE DOES. As an example of something that might turn me off him. Honestly, though he intrigues me. HAS to be better than Blair too.
 


Pavilionaire

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Jul 7, 2003
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On the plus side it is nice to see the likes of Cooper, Balls, Red Ed consigned to the political dustbin forever.
 




Diablo

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Some might like the sound of his promises but surely most consider his election as Labour Leader, bad news for Labour. Is there anyone on NSC who really honestly believes that Corbyn will be good for this country if he was to become prime minister??.
 
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Biscuit Barrel

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Jan 28, 2014
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That Argie president is just using this for political gain, if we hand them back that will be a real vote winner, NOT

But JC will not make policies just to win votes. He is a conviction politician. The days of Labour politicians saying things just to please the public are over, aren't they?
 








Dandyman

In London village.
Strange response. Corbyn specifically announced there would be an equal split of female and male shadow cabinet ministers - most people kind of assumed that at least one of the top positions would go to a woman, even those nasty Tories managed that. I think it's perfectly valid to ask why the leader of the opposition won't discuss his appointments (which was the point you avoided answering). You've got the like of long-standing Labour MPs Diana Johnson and Margaret Curran publicly expressing disappointment at the apparent backtracking so your huff and puff about the Tories being worse doesn't quite answer the question.

It would have been nice for at least one of the Corbynistas to practice what they preach about a new era of honest, principled politics without reference to the current status quo and say "I think he got it wrong here". Maybe Corbyn and his fans aren't so different as they like to make out.

Buzzer, there were still talks going on about the shadow cabinet earlier today which I am fairly certain is why he did not want to answer the question. This is the latest list I've seen:

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/sep/14/jeremy-corbyn-labour-shadow-cabinet-in-full

As you will see there are 16 women in it.
 






The Merry Prankster

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Aug 19, 2006
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Strange response. Corbyn specifically announced there would be an equal split of female and male shadow cabinet ministers - most people kind of assumed that at least one of the top positions would go to a woman, even those nasty Tories managed that. I think it's perfectly valid to ask why the leader of the opposition won't discuss his appointments (which was the point you avoided answering). You've got the like of long-standing Labour MPs Diana Johnson and Margaret Curran publicly expressing disappointment at the apparent backtracking so your huff and puff about the Tories being worse doesn't quite answer the question.

It would have been nice for at least one of the Corbynistas to practice what they preach about a new era of honest, principled politics without reference to the current status quo and say "I think he got it wrong here". Maybe Corbyn and his fans aren't so different as they like to make out.

Okay. I'll volunteer. It's a disappointment. He should have done better. My next door neighbour (who is very good at what she does) is about to be lost to public service as she's sick of having to deal with an endless stream of white, middle aged men. Things need to change and I'm disappointed he didn't rise to that and I'm equally disappointed that he ran away from the questions.
 


Buzzer

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Oct 1, 2006
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Buzzer, there were still talks going on about the shadow cabinet earlier today which I am fairly certain is why he did not want to answer the question. This is the latest list I've seen:

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/sep/14/jeremy-corbyn-labour-shadow-cabinet-in-full

As you will see there are 16 women in it.
But none in the big 4 ministries. Even if you won't admit it's a mistake, Owen Jones has had the balls to say so.

And how much decision making went into filling the remaining posts? Lucy Powell admits she'd never even spoken to Corbyn or met him before he appointed her! Sounds like he was just making sure the quota was filled without much forethought after he'd sorted out the men in the big roles.

Andy Burnham was right with his comment about having women at the top 'when the time is right'. What message does this give? Glass ceilings, I reckon.
 
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burstead

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Dandyman

In London village.
But none in the big 4 ministries. Even if you won't admit it's a mistake, Owen Jones has had the balls to say so.

And how much decision making went into filling the remaining posts? Lucy Powell admits she'd never even spoken to Corbyn or met him before he appointed her! Sounds like he was just making sure the quota was filled without much forethought after he'd sorted out the men in the big roles.

Andy Burnham was right with his comment about having women at the top 'when the time is right'. What message does this give? Glass ceilings, I reckon.

Women have been appointed as Chief Whip, Chief Secretary to the Treasury and to the Defence, Health and Education portfolios. There are more women than any other shadow or actual cabinet I can think of and more than twice as many as in Cameron's cabinet. I would have thought that those were things to be applauded.
 


Mellor 3 Ward 4

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Jul 27, 2004
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Chris Bryant, the new shadow Commons leader, said he had been offered the job of shadow defence secretary but turned it down because he disagreed with Mr Corbyn "about a lot of defence issues".

That went well then.
 








Mr Bridger

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Feb 25, 2013
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As far as the number of women in the cabinet/shadow cabinet I'd be happy with all men or all women.

Surely it's about their ability rather than their sex?

Not these days it's not, you have to have certain criteria to meet so everything and everyone are equal.
 


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