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Derby and Fulham bid for Dunk [+ Newcastle now interested]



nwgull

Well-known member
Jul 25, 2003
13,846
Manchester
Personally I think this is not good news. We really do need to keep hold of our young players if weare going to progress. This business about selling and reinvesting that will bring rewards didn't exactly work with ulloa!

I think if the club look to offload dunk and jfc, that will confirm a lot of people's view that the Amex is a white elephant that we can only afford by selling our best players. I am not sure I subscribe to that view, but I can see where they are coming from.
5m can buy a lot of talent. And the last thing we need when trying to sign promising players, like the Iranian bloke, is a reputation for holding players' careers back.

As for the the Amex, it has had over 2 million football fans go through the turnstiles in only 4 years, as well as the concerts and upcoming rugby World Cup. Not many would see that as a white elephant.
 




The Brighton Buzz

Falmer here we come
Jan 31, 2008
1,277
Personally I think this is not good news. We really do need to keep hold of our young players if weare going to progress. This business about selling and reinvesting that will bring rewards didn't exactly work with ulloa!

I think if the club look to offload dunk and jfc, that will confirm a lot of people's view that the Amex is a white elephant that we can only afford by selling our best players. I am not sure I subscribe to that view, but I can see where they are coming from.

The problem is. It seems that there is no sell and reinvest policy. We sell and don't invest. That is why we have a much inferior squad now than at any time since we arrived at the Amex. The fact that we are also told that this squad costs more than previously is the biggest worry. It proves that we left it late putting a squad together, thinking we would get bargains and yet were held to ransom as we had no competitive squad at the start of last season. Let's us hope we have learnt our lesson, because supporters will not put up with the dross that was on offer last season. Season ticket holders appear to have stood by the club by renewing, this is the last chance to get it right. Another season like last year and the club could find themselves in trouble financially. It is still early in the recruitment of players so I am not worrying yet, but if we have still not signed anyone of note in the next two weeks I will start.
 


Zebedee

Anyone seen Florence?
Jul 8, 2003
8,002
Hangleton
The problem is. It seems that there is no sell and reinvest policy. We sell and don't invest. That is why we have a much inferior squad now than at any time since we arrived at the Amex. The fact that we are also told that this squad costs more than previously is the biggest worry. It proves that we left it late putting a squad together, thinking we would get bargains and yet were held to ransom as we had no competitive squad at the start of last season. Let's us hope we have learnt our lesson, because supporters will not put up with the dross that was on offer last season. Season ticket holders appear to have stood by the club by renewing, this is the last chance to get it right. Another season like last year and the club could find themselves in trouble financially. It is still early in the recruitment of players so I am not worrying yet, but if we have still not signed anyone of note in the next two weeks I will start.

I don't expect us to be able to compete financially with the clubs that have parachute payments but with our support and income we should at the very least expect to be amongst the top 10 clubs in the Championship.
 


Diego Napier

Well-known member
Mar 27, 2010
4,416
The problem is. It seems that there is no sell and reinvest policy. We sell and don't invest. That is why we have a much inferior squad now than at any time since we arrived at the Amex. The fact that we are also told that this squad costs more than previously is the biggest worry. It proves that we left it late putting a squad together, thinking we would get bargains and yet were held to ransom as we had no competitive squad at the start of last season. Let's us hope we have learnt our lesson, because supporters will not put up with the dross that was on offer last season. Season ticket holders appear to have stood by the club by renewing, this is the last chance to get it right. Another season like last year and the club could find themselves in trouble financially. It is still early in the recruitment of players so I am not worrying yet, but if we have still not signed anyone of note in the next two weeks I will start.

In what sense?

The club have been in trouble financially since the Goldstone days, as have most other teams outside the top flight. Board members and more latterly, TB in particular have kept us afloat.
 








The Brighton Buzz

Falmer here we come
Jan 31, 2008
1,277
In what sense?

The club have been in trouble financially since the Goldstone days, as have most other teams outside the top flight. Board members and more latterly, TB in particular have kept us afloat.

Exactly my point. Do you think TB will continue to pump money in if we have 14K gates. No, he will either sell or cut budgets and we will be heading for League two. There are different limits to struggling financially and at the moment as in most clubs, as you say, the clubs are propped up by directors etc. However a half full Amex could be a step too far.
 


chaileyjem

#BarberIn
NSC Patron
Jun 27, 2012
13,946
I don't expect us to be able to compete financially with the clubs that have parachute payments but with our support and income we should at the very least expect to be amongst the top 10 clubs in the Championship.

We are. In the spending league that is.
 












symyjym

Banned
Nov 2, 2009
13,138
Brighton / Hove actually
If we sell Dunk for £5m it would mean that the club would have seen a return on players of over £20m in the last 18 months. Selling them is all part of the footballing economy and because they have short careers there is no point in getting overly attached to them. Just appreciate them while they are here. Even the top Prem clubs have no guarantee of keeping players and every club is fluid in that regard.

Good recruitment, spending wisely and developing players is the only way to go.
 




Tony Meolas Loan Spell

Slut Faced Whores
Jul 15, 2004
18,067
Vamanos Pest
We are not (nor is any other team with our championship standing) in a position to prevent young players furthering their careers in the Premier league. If Newcastle want Lewis, do you think he is going to say, "no thanks, i'd rather stay at the Albion". He will want to take advantage of the opportunity and the club will make sure they get top dollar just as they did with Bridcutt, Buckley and Ulloa.

We do not have to sell Dunk, so going by recent transfer dealings we'll play hardball and get a good price, and £5m in my view represents good value. Much less than that does not.

I personally think providing a gateway to career advancement could prove useful in making the Albion an attractive destination for ambitious young players. Championship clubs (not just the Albion) will always get trumped by Premier League clubs, there is not a lot we can do to stop it, we can however make sure we do not get ripped off.

As for the benefit of the Ulloa money, as I understand it that was not in last years pot, but has gone into this years accounts freeing up some much needed cash players this summer.

Indeed, like most we are a selling club. One thing is certain Barbs will get top dollar for any player now. Thats a good thing.

What I dont want to see anymore is willy wavng over £200k for a proven champ leftback (Ward) having already agreed terms and then get blindsided at the last min. That started the alarm bells. In fairness that wasnt Barbs fault.
 




Machiavelli

Well-known member
Oct 11, 2013
16,706
Fiveways
Looks like Burnley are going to sell Trippier to Spurs for £3.5m, which puts a £5m bid for Dunk into perspective. Trust we manage to also negotiate a sell-on clause.
Barber IN :jester:
 


middletoenail

Well-known member
Jul 2, 2008
3,571
Hong Kong
I don't expect us to be able to compete financially with the clubs that have parachute payments but with our support and income we should at the very least expect to be amongst the top 10 clubs in the Championship.
The problem is that a lot of the likely top 10 next season will have parachute payments.
 


cardboard

New member
Jul 8, 2003
4,573
Mile Oak
Looks like Burnley are going to sell Trippier to Spurs for £3.5m, which puts a £5m bid for Dunk into perspective. Trust we manage to also negotiate a sell-on clause.
Barber IN :jester:

Trippier is only going for £3.5m as he has that figure as a release clause in his contract. He would cost much more than that without this in todays market.
 










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