Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
You couldn't be more wrong, and have interpreted his post completely the wrong way.
Absolutely. The OP has no desire to feel 'needed'.
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Lost the passion?
- Thread starter Henfield One
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You couldn't be more wrong, and have interpreted his post completely the wrong way.
Absolutely. The OP has no desire to feel 'needed'.
You can't say that about the chosen one. How dare you!!!
nwgull
Well-known member
By sacking the man in charge of player recruitment in January, they have effectively admitted that they got that wrong.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
For the second time in four years, although the excuses given for John Stephenson leaving were laughable.
That was highly embarrassing.
Seasidesage
New member
That is my hope too. Another season like this one doesn't bear thinking about. I can live with being crap, I've been going since the early 70's I've seen plenty of poor sides over the years. Disinterested like this lot, is something different again...
It's easy to blame the loan players but the whole ethos of this side is wrong. Where is the drive? The aggression? Even looking vaguely pissed off when they concede a goal? We clearly need a major overhaul with strikers a priority, but we also desperately need some characters, real leaders and not the cupboard cut outs we currently have in our colours.
Stato
Well-known member
- Dec 21, 2011
- 6,603
Its been a crap season, but there have been far worse.
This one seems worse than it is because:
1) its happening now, not in the past;
2) it has come after a solid few years of success;
3) after the flair and glamour of the Poyet years we have gone back to being just another championship team; &
4) We haven't yet developed a new identity on the pitch.
I loved Vicente et al turning out for us, and still smiled at a couple of moments last night when Bruno, Tex and Caldy showed up the lack of technique of Bournemouth's limited, but effective side, but those days look gone and we have to look to the future. The aim is potentially very exciting. Seeing a successful Brighton team made up of local youngsters would be a dream to surpass anything the club has ever done. However, its a long term aim and nothing guarantees success in football.
In the meantime my advice to those who are losing their mojo is to put this year of loan rangers behind us and look to a longer term future. However, if other things start to take precedence, don't beat yourself up, just remember that all who fought to save this club, didn't necessarily do it to enjoy the rewards themselves, but to ensure that generations of our kids and their kids have the same opportunity to experience the general misery, but occasional ecstasy that comes from watching your local side.
This one seems worse than it is because:
1) its happening now, not in the past;
2) it has come after a solid few years of success;
3) after the flair and glamour of the Poyet years we have gone back to being just another championship team; &
4) We haven't yet developed a new identity on the pitch.
I loved Vicente et al turning out for us, and still smiled at a couple of moments last night when Bruno, Tex and Caldy showed up the lack of technique of Bournemouth's limited, but effective side, but those days look gone and we have to look to the future. The aim is potentially very exciting. Seeing a successful Brighton team made up of local youngsters would be a dream to surpass anything the club has ever done. However, its a long term aim and nothing guarantees success in football.
In the meantime my advice to those who are losing their mojo is to put this year of loan rangers behind us and look to a longer term future. However, if other things start to take precedence, don't beat yourself up, just remember that all who fought to save this club, didn't necessarily do it to enjoy the rewards themselves, but to ensure that generations of our kids and their kids have the same opportunity to experience the general misery, but occasional ecstasy that comes from watching your local side.
Icy Gull
Back on the rollercoaster
- Jul 5, 2003
- 72,015
No they haven't they have effectively blamed Burke. I have never heard Barber or Bloom say they got something wrong, Maybe I am being a bit precious here but I like people to admit when they have got things wrong, it shows a bit of humility. As I said elsewhere I'm waiting for the positive spin that they will try and put on this shambles of a season, once it is over.
Lincoln Imp
Well-known member
- Feb 2, 2009
- 5,964
You don't know about his agenda because he doesn't have one.
RexCathedra
Aurea Mediocritas
'The passion' can be restored by topical applications of owner's £.s.d., repeated as necessary. Ask any fan of a top-six EPL team.
It can be bought. Everything else in this society can be.
It can be bought. Everything else in this society can be.
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Simontheseagull
Eye from the sky
Last night was the first time in 49 years of watching the Albion that I felt bored while watching a match. All we did for much of the game was prioritise defending, pass the ball sideways when we had it, then back to Stockbridge to hoof it up field for at best a 50/50 header between an Albion and Bournemouth player. I have always stayed to the final whistle, stood up and clapped our players off the pitch, but last night I just sat in my seat feeling numb and disillusioned at the end of the game. Many Norwich fans have warned that we would soon feel this way with CH as manager. I had hoped they would be wrong, but I am now having second thoughts.
The fact that I am reading NSC and will still be going to next Tuesdays match and devotedly watching the Albion for many years to come, come what may, means I have not lost my passion for the Albion. I have seen many highs and lows, but last night was one of the worst lows in football terms that I can remember. Yes, we were playing a really good team that is team top of the Championship, but Bournemouth were having an off day and at the very least we should have looked like we could beat them, even if it needed luck to do so. For CH to say we were very good for the first 70 minutes in his post match interview is alarming. At the moment I can't see us scoring another goal for the rest of the season. .
I still feel grateful to TB for providing us fans with a wonderful stadium after the hardships experienced in past years, but the football at the moment is just dire and not exciting. I can live with the Albion not winning or playing well in every match I see, and I am not bothered if we do not get to the money grabbing Premier League. I just want to see some exciting entertaining football where at the very least we are competing to win rather than just defending and hoping for a breakaway goal.
The fact that I am reading NSC and will still be going to next Tuesdays match and devotedly watching the Albion for many years to come, come what may, means I have not lost my passion for the Albion. I have seen many highs and lows, but last night was one of the worst lows in football terms that I can remember. Yes, we were playing a really good team that is team top of the Championship, but Bournemouth were having an off day and at the very least we should have looked like we could beat them, even if it needed luck to do so. For CH to say we were very good for the first 70 minutes in his post match interview is alarming. At the moment I can't see us scoring another goal for the rest of the season. .
I still feel grateful to TB for providing us fans with a wonderful stadium after the hardships experienced in past years, but the football at the moment is just dire and not exciting. I can live with the Albion not winning or playing well in every match I see, and I am not bothered if we do not get to the money grabbing Premier League. I just want to see some exciting entertaining football where at the very least we are competing to win rather than just defending and hoping for a breakaway goal.
atfc village
Well-known member
Try following my lot,we are gash but it's my team that for all the ups and mainly downs i will follow them till the day i die.
mona
The Glory Game
I'm a Brighton exile. The town feels a strange place to me in some ways - massive gentrification and every other pub re-named. I love returning for the Albion, to watch Sussex play and seeing old friends. I don't have much attachment to Brighton any more although I am a Brightonian. Think the Amex is great and still follow BHAFC everywhere.
Oddly in my adopted county I've stopped following two clubs who have moved to new grounds.....they're less likeable now.
Strange.
Irrational thing supporting a football club. Isn't it.
Oddly in my adopted county I've stopped following two clubs who have moved to new grounds.....they're less likeable now.
Strange.
Irrational thing supporting a football club. Isn't it.
Arkwright
Arkwright
In the dark days we all did our bit where possible, it doesn't mean that we all share the same opinion.
Football has moved on from the days of The Withdean and the club have no option but to become more corporate, sadly this is just a fact of football and business. We all loved the Withdean days and all felt part of the club, now whether we like it or not we are customers who support the club but tell one club or group of fans whose club is any different.
Return of the Rev
Well-known member
Ups and downs are good! But for the Albion what would the ups be? The top division does not have the same appeal as you are granted only a temporary membership so the top 6 get someone different to whip! Sometimes you get thrown a bone and then you get all excited thinking you have pushed on. Then you find you time is up and you get binned back to where you belong,The sooner an European league comes along the better
Publius Ovidius
Well-known member
Really? if it wasn't for paul we wouldn't have a football club to bitch about! It's as simple as that. No matter how the revisionists would have it.
This situation has been coming for a while, certainly last season, the rumblings were there and it's isnt just a one season wonder. The club that many of us have grown up with, me since 1974, has changed dramatically. For the new fans that may be a good thing. But they have never had the experience of being wanted to be more than fans...we were asked to boycott games, leave early, bring whistles, disrupt games, hound out owners and employees alike....we were asked to go on marches, to send Christmas cards and Valentine cards, that was what the club was all about. It was our club...the Ernest's, atilla's, samarah's, yorkies, easy's, Edna's, bozza's, Harty's, tim's,The Rev' , sarah and liz, paul and Colin's, adrian, Kieron, Rusco' club...all the fans who worked so damn hard to get us to where we are and what we didn't know, but probably guessed, was that the club would need to turn into a corporate machine.
To fill the new stadium, we needed new fans as we had lost so many over the years, and yes we have had many many new fans. We needed money to survive as it was obvious we were hemorraging cash and we have been hit by FFP which has meant that to keep the losses down, decent players who would have got us to the premiership have been sold and we have taken the decision to let other teams pay players who we have on our books....but those players, apart from one or two, are not interested and not good enough.
Yes this is a poor season, and people are hacked off...last season was a strange season, and if we we survive, next season in the championship will be more so as there is the expectation that we will be awash with money to buy better players!!! WHY? We are told we have a huge player budget!
Let's put this down to experience, realise it's not the fans club any more and if we are moving forward, let's hope that Brighton and Hove Albion corporate gives us something to cheer about....rather than cheering when millwall lose to watford!
bobby baxter
Well-known member
- Jan 31, 2014
- 719
Ups and downs are good! But for the Albion what would the ups be? The top division does not have the same appeal as you are granted only a temporary membership so the top 6 get someone different to whip! Sometimes you get thrown a bone and then you get all excited thinking you have pushed on. Then you find you time is up and you get binned back to where you belong,The sooner an European league comes along the better
] I am watching the Burnley Arsenal game, try telling the Burnley fans its only temporary, they know that but the club is giving it a go and the fans are responding.
Burnley are playing the mighty Arsenal with Ings and Vokes up front and Barnes and Boyd tucked in behind them.
I would love it if we could have a shot at that
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Maybe it's me, but I felt we had that togetherness at Fulham away which everyone enjoyed. Yes, it helps winning a match, but we'd just lost our manager, managed to claw a point from being 2-0 down against Reading, and all - fans & players alike, were ready to put up a fight.
Simontheseagull
Eye from the sky
I agree with everything you have said GW.
Have been there and done it with the marches, petitions, sit ins, etc.,and all through the hard times we always had hope that things would get better. At the moment though I am struggling to understand how we can move forwards when we are playing boring defensive football with no intention of scoring a goal unless it is "on the break". Ma\y be, just may be, the situation will change after we mathematically cannot be relegated this season. Your post has started to give me some hope!
Have been there and done it with the marches, petitions, sit ins, etc.,and all through the hard times we always had hope that things would get better. At the moment though I am struggling to understand how we can move forwards when we are playing boring defensive football with no intention of scoring a goal unless it is "on the break". Ma\y be, just may be, the situation will change after we mathematically cannot be relegated this season. Your post has started to give me some hope!
NSC would, I think, have a disproportionately high percentage of die-hards, who would go to the Amex whatever dross is served up. So most views here are always going to be 'loyal'.
Take the hard core at Withdean at the end and say double it. I think the hard core who will go rain and shine whatever, is say 12,000. 12,000 plus a few thousand others long-term is not viable. The Club really need to deal with this bland, non-winning, non-scoring football of the last three seasons, and yes, Poyet in his Amex spell was as gulity of serving up shite as his successors. The home league win % over the four years, must be awful, as would be home goals scored per game compared to other Championship clubs.
We got bored of it sometime ago, long before blame-figure Hyppia arrived. The often winning and scoring football of Slade and Poyet at Withdean, was far more exciting. Going to games then was exciting. Despite the awful stadium!
It must be fixable. Look at the consistently scoring, pacey and attacking football of Palace, Bournemouth, Watford and many others clubs.