Return of the Rev
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I bet mr bloom is well happy at having to stump up 10million+ every season
Would you be any less miserable in palace's position?
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Stato
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In all honesty, I would be a bit miserable if I was a Palace fan at the moment. I tend to look at the long term and, if Palace fans do this, I suspect a lot are conflicted. On the one hand they want to campaign against modern football and claim to be 'real', but on the other they are desperate to stay in the 'Plastic' top league, because when they eventually do drop it will feel like failure.
Its a conflict that must happen to any small club reaching the Premier League, but it must hurt the traditional Palace fan quite hard. In the Championship they defined themselves as a scrapping family who had a record for bringing through young talent, but the flirtation with the top boys has led to the club management abandoning youth, first for Tony Pulis and now for the loathsome Alan Pardew, just to extend the temporary stay. It must feel like a betrayal of what they thought their club was. Some will seek consolation that they are making money, but Steven Fletcher's recent photo shows where Premier League money goes. In their case it doesn't seem to be being used to guarantee a future by making improvements to the infrastructure and develop a top category academy. It must feel like 'here we go again' to those who have lived through the previous profligate regimes who bet everything on black and when it came up red, as it always will eventually for clubs of our stature, walked away. If I were a Palace fan I would be lobbying the board to ensure that the current financial good times are used to protect the club for the community for the future, not to cash out to foreign owners.
I know Palace fans will suggest that we will face the same conflicts should we ever get promoted, but its made easier for us because of what we have gone through. The fact that we had the old club ripped away from us without choice and had to hang on for so long fighting to stay alive and hoping for rescue means that we have had time to come to terms with modern football and can approach its benefits and dangers in a more considered and mature way. More mature than dressing up in black and waving banners to pretend that we're not part of it. We also have an owner who has shown, through his actions, that his number one priority is to guarantee the survival of football in this city for as long as possible. Promotions and relegations will come and go and, at some point, I'm sure we will be lording it over them again, but I'm much more comfortable with our lot even whilst we are below them, because we have stared into the abyss and come away with the absolute determination that it will never be allowed to happen again.
Cue the usual suspects: If you want to show that you have missed the point entirely, I would suggest something like 'Yeah, I'd much rather be struggling at the bottom of the Championship, than playing Chelsea and Man Utd.'
Its a conflict that must happen to any small club reaching the Premier League, but it must hurt the traditional Palace fan quite hard. In the Championship they defined themselves as a scrapping family who had a record for bringing through young talent, but the flirtation with the top boys has led to the club management abandoning youth, first for Tony Pulis and now for the loathsome Alan Pardew, just to extend the temporary stay. It must feel like a betrayal of what they thought their club was. Some will seek consolation that they are making money, but Steven Fletcher's recent photo shows where Premier League money goes. In their case it doesn't seem to be being used to guarantee a future by making improvements to the infrastructure and develop a top category academy. It must feel like 'here we go again' to those who have lived through the previous profligate regimes who bet everything on black and when it came up red, as it always will eventually for clubs of our stature, walked away. If I were a Palace fan I would be lobbying the board to ensure that the current financial good times are used to protect the club for the community for the future, not to cash out to foreign owners.
I know Palace fans will suggest that we will face the same conflicts should we ever get promoted, but its made easier for us because of what we have gone through. The fact that we had the old club ripped away from us without choice and had to hang on for so long fighting to stay alive and hoping for rescue means that we have had time to come to terms with modern football and can approach its benefits and dangers in a more considered and mature way. More mature than dressing up in black and waving banners to pretend that we're not part of it. We also have an owner who has shown, through his actions, that his number one priority is to guarantee the survival of football in this city for as long as possible. Promotions and relegations will come and go and, at some point, I'm sure we will be lording it over them again, but I'm much more comfortable with our lot even whilst we are below them, because we have stared into the abyss and come away with the absolute determination that it will never be allowed to happen again.
Cue the usual suspects: If you want to show that you have missed the point entirely, I would suggest something like 'Yeah, I'd much rather be struggling at the bottom of the Championship, than playing Chelsea and Man Utd.'
See! This is my point I keep going on about. We nearly went out of the football league with a high risk of going out of existence, fans had to travel 150 miles round trip to home games, had a real risk of never being allowed to having the funds to build a new ground. Had you said we'd be nearly filling a 30k capacity new ground regularly and a mid table 2nd division team you'd have said that would make you very happy but is just a pipe dream. Then it actually happens and instead of being happy, you moan and wittier on about a London club.
Tony Meolas Loan Spell
Slut Faced Whores
Is of course the right answer.
Sweeney Todd
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The difference between the two clubs – and I do give credit to Palace for their performances in the Premier League this season and last – is that, when we go up, our average attendance will not double.
I'm just happy to see Muzza play at the level he deserves to, and be recognised for the talent he is. Ironical that as recently as December after Hughton was appointed the "Argus" were still seriously toting him as a loan signing to get you out of the hole Hyypia had dug for you.
Now I think Pards has realised that Muzza is genuinely Premiership talent. So Warnock was our Hyypia..
Now I think Pards has realised that Muzza is genuinely Premiership talent. So Warnock was our Hyypia..
you can hardly compare Warnock's managerial track record with SH's can you? I'm not happy with your contributions so far. Can you pop into my office please?
CPFC G
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- Dec 24, 2011
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When you go up..??
Average 2013 17,000
Average 2014 24400
We would do well to fit 34000 in to Selhurst.
Stato
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- Dec 21, 2011
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yeah, its really miserable at the moment
How are the sale negotiations going?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/p/portsmouth/5195590.stm
Oops! Sorry wrong link:
http://www.theguardian.com/football...alace-takeover-nearing-completion-josh-harris
Sweeney Todd
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It is advisable not to get too cocky whilst you’re ahead.
Not long ago, Pompey fans were laughing at Southampton.
Not long ago, Pompey fans were laughing at Southampton.
seagullsovergrimsby
#cpfctinpotclub
You can tell how much faith this takeover consortium has in paying to acquire a 70% holding in a football club that they wont sign any deal until the chance of relegation is not an issue.
Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
This, all day long.
It's been a poor season for the albion, no doubt, but the club is rising again after the Hyypia-Burke disaster, and we'll be much closer next year.
As for Palace, their fall will come, and a lot of the gloaters won't be seen around here when it happens.
Tom Hark Preston Park
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- Jul 6, 2003
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All this sneering at Southampton//Palace/Reading (and soon to be Bournemouth) just looks like so much sour grapes. Pretty pathetic, IMHO. We fought long and hard for a level playing field and now that we've got it we seem content to do just enough to satisfy the FFP bean-counters, sell our soul to SKY at two weeks notice and splutter along in the slow lane. Where's the genuine vision? When's the Champions League?
Megazone
On his last warning
If we were in Palace's position, we'd be moaning about Glenn Murray's lack of pace.
Some things will never change.
Some things will never change.
Tom Hark Preston Park
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Real Madrid fans seem to have a downer on Gareth Bale. Oh, well. Football will eat itself, and hopefully implode mightily. A serious readjustment is long overdue.
Bombadier Botty
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- Jun 2, 2008
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This, it is pathetic sour grapes, especially where Reading and Bournemouth are concerned and all it achieves is the BBS ripping the piss out of Simster, resulting in him feeling about 2ft tall.
Bombadier Botty
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- Jun 2, 2008
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Yep, it's all relative (to use an old cliche).
Tom Hark Preston Park
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