Ched Evans

[keaton]

The following deleted tweets from the 'victim' say it all really:

Remind me never to tell [MENTION=29649]xXxXx[/MENTION]XX when I win big!..... She’s going to kill me! #scaredformylife! Haha!’

[MENTION=29649]xXxXx[/MENTION]XX I will get us matching pink Mini Coopers! Haha! Just seen them pictures on Facebook, I forgot bout XXXXXXX! Haha! X’

[MENTION=29649]xXxXx[/MENTION]XX I’ll make all your dreams come true XXXXXXX haha.’

[MENTION=29649]xXxXx[/MENTION]XX aww,well obvs I’d treat us to an amazing holiday x’.

What does it say?
And if it does how did he get found guilty and not be allowed to appeal?

 

[Barrel of Fun]

The following deleted tweets from the 'victim' say it all really:

Remind me never to tell [MENTION=29649]xXxXx[/MENTION]XX when I win big!..... She’s going to kill me! #scaredformylife! Haha!’

[MENTION=29649]xXxXx[/MENTION]XX I will get us matching pink Mini Coopers! Haha! Just seen them pictures on Facebook, I forgot bout XXXXXXX! Haha! X’

[MENTION=29649]xXxXx[/MENTION]XX I’ll make all your dreams come true XXXXXXX haha.’

[MENTION=29649]xXxXx[/MENTION]XX aww,well obvs I’d treat us to an amazing holiday x’.

Maybe she was referring to her name being released in the public domain and making light of a ghastly situation? Who knows?

Painting her as a compensation chaser or fame grabber is exactly the attitude that allowed many high profile characters commit a string of offences, undetected or unquestioned.

 

[lawros left foot]

The following deleted tweets from the 'victim' say it all really:

Remind me never to tell [MENTION=29649]xXxXx[/MENTION]XX when I win big!..... She’s going to kill me! #scaredformylife! Haha!’

[MENTION=29649]xXxXx[/MENTION]XX I will get us matching pink Mini Coopers! Haha! Just seen them pictures on Facebook, I forgot bout XXXXXXX! Haha! X’

[MENTION=29649]xXxXx[/MENTION]XX I’ll make all your dreams come true XXXXXXX haha.’

[MENTION=29649]xXxXx[/MENTION]XX aww,well obvs I’d treat us to an amazing holiday x’.

These were never presented in court as evidence, if they had been, it may have been a different outcome

 

[Barry Stir]

What does that exchange show? Even if she was discussing what she would use compensation for, does that mean she wasn't raped. The jury saw and considered this and STILL he was convicted. Does that not suggest something about the strength of the prosecution case?

 

[Beach Seagull]

What does it say?
And if it does how did he get found guilty and not be allowed to appeal?

Obviously I don't know for sure what she is talking about and it could be totally unrelated to the case, but my guess is that the reference to 'winning big' is regarding the compensation she believes she will win, likewise the 'pink mini cooper' and the 'amazing holiday.' Before I get shot down (again) on here I acknowledge she could be speculating on what she would do if she won the euromillions or if she landed a well numerated job.

The tweets were unearthed after the CE was convicted and I'm guessing not in time to form part of his application for leave to appeal which was refused shortly after his conviction. I am guessing they will form a central plank of his appeal and could also be a reason why the usually slow CCRC have fast tracked his application. I'm no legal expert but I imagine a defence barrister would certainly 'make hay' in cross examining the 'victim' about the tweets (should the case go to appeal).

 

[Barry Stir]

The tweets were revealed five months before his trial not after. Why do you think the jury will not have seen them?

 

[Beach Seagull]

What does that exchange show? Even if she was discussing what she would use compensation for, does that mean she wasn't raped. The jury saw and considered this and STILL he was convicted. Does that not suggest something about the strength of the prosecution case?

No they didn't they were unearthed after he was convicted.

 

[Barry Stir]

Taken from his website.....'All these tweets were tweeted by the complainant between 8 October 2011 and 15 November 2011, approximately 5 months after Ched and Clayton McDonald had been charged with rape and approximately 5 months before Ched was convicted and Clayton acquitted'

 

[Beach Seagull]

The tweets were revealed five months before his trial not after. Why do you think the jury will not have seen them?

Supporters of the complainant and the North Wales Police denied these ever existed and it was only due to the hacking skills of a New York based fire fighter, interested in the civil liberty aspect of the case against those who tweeted the ‘complainant's name’ after the conviction of Ched, that unearthed them. (source http://www.chedevans.com/the-disputed-tweets)

 

[Barry Stir]

Read on....

 

[hans kraay fan club]

source www.chedevans.com

Please quit with quoting from the convicted rapist's propaganda site. How are you expecting people to take your side of this debate seriously when your only supporting source is the accused and his family??

 

[Bold Seagull]

Very interesting that the IPC have made a statement to the effect that Oscar Pistorius will not be allowed to compete for 5 years regardless of whether he is released early or not.

The FA should be doing the same or very similar in my opinion with the Evans case.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Supporters of the complainant and the North Wales Police denied these ever existed and it was only due to the hacking skills of a New York based fire fighter, interested in the civil liberty aspect of the case against those who tweeted the ‘complainant's name’ after the conviction of Ched, that unearthed them. (source http://www.chedevans.com/the-disputed-tweets)

Are you a relative of the convicted rapist by any chance? You seem a bit OBSESSED in your defence of the bloke

 

[Barry Stir]

Particularly when it doesn't even make the point you're trying to achieve. The reference to 'after conviction' relates to those who tweeted the victim's name. Read it again.

 

[Beach Seagull]

Particularly when it doesn't even make the point you're trying to achieve. The reference to 'after conviction' relates to those who tweeted the victim's name. Read it again.

It does make the point I'm trying to achieve. Yes it does make a reference to those who tweeted the victims name, but it starts with 'supporters of the complainant and the Police denied they (the tweets) ever existed and continues with to say after the trial they were unearthed.

 

[Beach Seagull]

Are you a relative of the convicted rapist by any chance? You seem a bit OBSESSED in your defence of the bloke

No.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

No.

Fair enough. Just asking.

 

[Barry Stir]

Read it........er.........


All these tweets were tweeted by the complainant between 8 October 2011 and 15 November 2011, approximately 5 months after Ched and Clayton McDonald had been charged with rape and approximately 5 months before Ched was convicted and Clayton acquitted.

The fire fighter posted these on his blog along with an overview of his intentions which were primarily his interest in the cyberlegal situation which follow the tweeting of the complainant’s name and the charging of those who did so, they were later convicted. He does state that he has ‘no axe to grind' in this case knowing none of the principle participants.

 

[Beach Seagull]

Please quit with quoting from the convicted rapist's propaganda site. How are you expecting people to take your side of this debate seriously when your only supporting source is the accused and his family??

Well to be fair propaganda or not its a pretty strong 'supporting source.' I can imagine if said tweets had been aired in his original trial the outcome may well have been different.

 

[Barry Stir]

Read the website. They were uncovered five months before the trial.