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dougdeep

New member
May 9, 2004
37,732
SUNNY SEAFORD
The people have spoken. The whole concept of the EU is fatally flawed. The Euro can't work with different sized economies. Staying in will just drag us down. Time to make Britain Great again.
 




pastafarian

Well-known member
Sep 4, 2011
11,902
Sussex
Indeed Yes.

A clear message has been sent, compounded by the complete failure of the Liberals and their full on Pro-Europe stance.

Will Labour and Conservatives listen? I will not hold my breath.

The Euro Sceptics have made significant gains all over Europe not just here.

Me thinks it is finally time for the so called "elite" to listen.

I await the inevitable EURO BINGO with nibble and daveinbognor comments saying Racists,Nazis,homophobes and misogynists are taking over Europe.
 


sahel

Active member
Jan 24, 2014
224
Indeed Yes.

A clear message has been sent, compounded by the complete failure of the Liberals and their full on Pro-Europe stance.

Will Labour and Conservatives listen? I will not hold my breath.

The Euro Sceptics have made significant gains all over Europe not just here.

Me thinks it is finally time for the so called "elite" to listen.

I await the inevitable EURO BINGO with nibble and daveinbognor comments saying Racists,Nazis,homophobes and misogynists are taking over Europe.

You should be so careful of what you wish for. The future for Europe is already full of risk in a world of rising economies in Asia and South America. Without the EU, with each small country battling on its own, the future is truly perilous. If that is what people want ok. It's not what I want for my children. I really fear for them if silly nationalism takes over
 


Tesco in Disguise

Where do we go from here?
Jul 5, 2003
3,926
Wienerville
The people have spoken. The whole concept of the EU is fatally flawed. The Euro can't work with different sized economies. Staying in will just drag us down. Time to make Britain Great again.

Yes, we only need to look at America as an example. Texas has the same currency as Rhode island, and the US dollar has become WORTHLESS.

Britain for the British! :moron:
 


pastafarian

Well-known member
Sep 4, 2011
11,902
Sussex
You should be so careful of what you wish for. The future for Europe is already full of risk in a world of rising economies in Asia and South America. Without the EU, with each small country battling on its own, the future is truly perilous. If that is what people want ok. It's not what I want for my children. I really fear for them if silly nationalism takes over

ok,thats your choice,good for you.luckily for you voters all over Europe agree with you........ohhh hold on a tick.
 






Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
21,086
The arse end of Hangleton
Yes, we only need to look at America as an example. Texas has the same currency as Rhode island, and the US dollar has become WORTHLESS.

Britain for the British! :moron:

The USA states having the same currency isn't remotely similar to how the Eurozone works.
 


pastafarian

Well-known member
Sep 4, 2011
11,902
Sussex
Yes, we only need to look at America as an example. Texas has the same currency as Rhode island, and the US dollar has become WORTHLESS.

Britain for the British! :moron:

What the F~CKETY F@CK F~CK has texas anything to do with the euro elections...im not sure moron covers you!
 




janee

Fur half
Oct 19, 2008
709
Lentil land
I notice the far right has been elected throughout Europe be very careful what you wish for.... Likely to crack down on disability rights first.

Remember austerity on a massive scale led to the far Right dominating in the 1930s. What may start as a protest against the appalling mainstream parties could be quite sinister.
 


Kalimantan Gull

Well-known member
Aug 13, 2003
12,949
Central Borneo / the Lizard
Whats really new though? We already know a sizeable minority of the UK voting population don't like the EU and want out. One of the two largest parties in the UK is very anti-Europe and has been for a long time.

Whats perhaps remarkable is that for the first time ever a political party has been created with the sole platform of getting out of the EU, and for UKIP in isolation as a party, its a great result. This means that for the first time we can really see the strength of feeling out there. In that context, is 30% of the vote that great for the anti-EU cause? That's 30% of 30% voting, so barely 10% of the British voting public felt that strongly against Europe to go and cast a vote for the only party that wants to remove us from it.
 


Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
21,086
The arse end of Hangleton
Whats perhaps remarkable is that for the first time ever a political party has been created with the sole platform of getting out of the EU, and for UKIP in isolation as a party, its a great result. This means that for the first time we can really see the strength of feeling out there. In that context, is 30% of the vote that great for the anti-EU cause? That's 30% of 30% voting, so barely 10% of the British voting public felt that strongly against Europe to go and cast a vote for the only party that wants to remove us from it.

But you can use that argument after many elections. You can only count the votes cast, you can't count the non-voters - they have to be assumed as not caring enough one way or the other that they're happy to go with whatever majority wins out.
 




pastafarian

Well-known member
Sep 4, 2011
11,902
Sussex
I notice the far right has been elected throughout Europe be very careful what you wish for.... Likely to crack down on disability rights first.

There is a wheelchair bound disabled person in my family,indeed we take full use of the magnificent disabled facilities at the Amex in a season ticket capacity.I find your comments "Likely to crack down on disability rights first" obviously very worrying.

can you please list for me

A/ which disability rights the far right parties are targeting?

B/ which far right parties have these policies in their manifestos

if i have missed these policies i would like to informed otherwise.....thanks
 


vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
27,907
Going to be a brilliant binfest , pity I have to work today.Looking forward to seeing 10 pages of top end 'festy when I get back !
 


What is so great about 27.5% of the popular vote on the biggest platform they will ever get. I am glad a good majority of the 33% of the electorate who even cared enough about Europe to vote, retained their sanity.
 




pastafarian

Well-known member
Sep 4, 2011
11,902
Sussex
But you can use that argument after many elections. You can only count the votes cast, you can't count the non-voters - they have to be assumed as not caring enough one way or the other that they're happy to go with whatever majority wins out.

exactly,the turn out is shocking,but it always is,for some reason a large proportion of the population simply dont care.The people that do vote are representing the non voters in a weird sort of way......if the non voters dont like the way their non vote is going there is pretty much bugger all they can do about it!......oh wait yes there is......Vote you morons!
 


Wellesley

Well-known member
Jul 24, 2013
4,973
I am very pleased with the rise of UKIP. Most of us knew years ago the effect opening our borders to mass immigration and an influx of cheap labor would have on this country.It's a little too late but it's a start. We need to control our borders for the benefit of the British people, British people of all colours and creeds. I trust that Nigel Farage is not a racist, yet there is still a small part of me that fears things could snowball and give the green light to fascism to rear its ugly head again across Europe. If only one of the major parties had done something about it sooner.
 
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sahel

Active member
Jan 24, 2014
224
What is so great about 27.5% of the popular vote on the biggest platform they will ever get. I am glad a good majority of the 33% of the electorate who even cared enough about Europe to vote, retained their sanity.

Yes and those celebrating the UKIP vote should bear this in mind - the BNP vote went down about 6 or 7% so it is likely that about 6% of the UKIP vote is ex BNP. How does that make you all feel?
 




pastafarian

Well-known member
Sep 4, 2011
11,902
Sussex
I notice the far right has been elected throughout Europe be very careful what you wish for.... Likely to crack down on disability rights first.

any chance you can answer these questions i posed post no.12 with a little bit of haste?
i need to go and am desperate for a dump
 


Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
21,086
The arse end of Hangleton
Yes and those celebrating the UKIP vote should bear this in mind - the BNP vote went down about 6 or 7% so it is likely that about 6% of the UKIP vote is ex BNP. How does that make you all feel?

Well that assumption is certainly a wild one ! The Lib Dem vote went down 7% - as an ex-party of protest what's to say they didn't switch to UKIP ?

Regardless, no party can control who votes for them so as someone that voted UKIP, I have no feelings one way or the other about ex-BNP voters voting for UKIP, or ex-Labour voters voting UKIP or indeed anyone voting UKIP. That's what a democracy is all about.
 


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