Unchain The Brighton Motorist

[BN9 BHA]

Also a permit is okif you are working there all day but for an hour job its not worth spending 2 hrs getting a permit

Good point.

 

[c0lz]

Embrace the future

More larger stores on the outskirts of Brighton with their own car parks

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

More larger stores on the outskirts of Brighton with their own car parks

Fantastic. I'm all for it. But the future is people leisurely ambling around narrow streets of interesting shops. There's always Crawley if you love your car more than you love life.

 

[The Large One]

They are doing every in their power to make it more of a inconvenient to drive around the city center in hoping that it will drive cars out and it is the greens who have embarked on further 20 mph zones.

Such as...?

 

[c0lz]

Fantastic. I'm all for it. But the future is people leisurely ambling around narrow streets of interesting shops. There's always Crawley if you love your car more than you love life.

Little bit more than around the shops

 

[LamieRobertson]

If i go to brighton during the day on a sunday i'd rather cycle from Shoreham as i spend 6 days a week in the van driving to various jobs...healthier and no parking fees..cycling back if there is a south westerly isent as much fun..but then there is always Carats Cafe for a pitstop.

 

[Nibble]

So in conclusion pedestrians and cyclists are the problem?

Conclude what you wish. No skin off my nuts.

 

[c0lz]

Such as...?

Lewes road for one it was two lane's both ways, then some bright spark not only reduced it to one lane then also reduced the speed to 20 mph.

 

[brighton bluenose]

It's great walking around the traffic-free North Laine of a weekend. Brighton's a fantastic town for walking around full stop and the more areas closed off to private motorists the better IMHO.

Meant to give you a thumbs up but in the excitement pressed wrong button - apologies!

 

[brighton bluenose]

Its not that difficult is it - when you have a steady even flow the roads can cope and the traffic doesn't flood (think Somerset) when you get a high volume of traffic the roads find it difficult to cope so slowing it down (think not dredging) makes it flood (think Somerset again)

Thats unless you think the traffic is due to the high gay population in Brighton?

Have you ever seen old Shoreham / Sackville Junction when the traffic lights are down? Traffic flows through both ways no problem no congestion - mind you I 'll give you the cyclists can't get through!

What the f*** has any of that got to do with 20mph - or 30mph?!!

 

[brighton bluenose]

Also a permit is okif you are working there all day but for an hour job its not worth spending 2 hrs getting a permit

Mate I don't know you and I dont mean to be rude but you are talking absolte crap - if you had a job in the city centre for an hour you would park on a meter it is simple as that!

 

[brighton bluenose]

Ladders, tools, materials. Bus drivers get stoppy when asked to wait whilst you load 12 sheets of plaster board outside wickes.

But Wickes is on a trading estate off Davigdor Road with plenty of free parking!!!

 

[brighton bluenose]

Also a permit is okif you are working there all day but for an hour job its not worth spending 2 hrs getting a permit

Mate I don't know you and I dont mean to be rude but you are talking absolte crap - if you had a job in the city centre for an hour you would park on a meter it is simple as that!

 

[Chicken Runner61]

What the f*** has any of that got to do with 20mph - or 30mph?!!

Sorry I was being flippant but the faster traffic flows SAFELY the better for all, slowing it down in the town centre might seem like a good idea but its not because its just clogging it up so even the 30MPH bits don't flow.

TBF everyone seems to be ignoring it including the buses so we haven't seen the true effect yet but its almost certain to be worse and its the single lanes that are really polluting our city not the 20MPH.


A green told me when the bypass opened they were a bit peeved because it took away some of their argument of congestion, he wanted to see the 3 west / east roads clogged up like they used to be so they could complain there was too much traffic in Brighton.

I'm trying to think who would want to take a car to Brighton unless they had too?


I like the idea of a metro/underground / overhead system across Brighton leave the roads in for deliveries and tradesmen etc but thats not going to happen.

And the Volks railway should run 365 to Worthing too and should be enclosed.

You could open up shops/ bars all the way to the marina but guess what thats going to make more people want to come to Brighton by car

 

[BN9 BHA]

Mate I don't know you and I dont mean to be rude but you are talking absolte crap - if you had a job in the city centre for an hour you would park on a meter it is simple as that!

Genuine question here, as I no longer work in Brighton do most of the busy streets in the city centre have meters?
When I used to work in Brighton I would take the easy option and pay to park if this was available, but some streets had residents bays and single/ double yellow lines, which meant I had to get a permit.

 

[Chicken Runner61]

Mate I don't know you and I dont mean to be rude but you are talking absolte crap - if you had a job in the city centre for an hour you would park on a meter it is simple as that!

No Fraid you are - if you are a tradesman you would know that you can't risk parking on a meter because if the job runs over and you forget to renew the ticket you get a £30 fine and most of the meters in Brighton centre are 50P £1 for 15mins

You want to work there and find out what it like

 

[BN9 BHA]

But Wickes is on a trading estate off Davigdor Road with plenty of free parking!!!

 

[Chicken Runner61]

Genuine question here, as I no longer work in Brighton do most of the busy streets in the city centre have meters?
When I used to work in Brighton I would take the easy option and pay to park if this was available, but some streets had residents bays and single/ double yellow lines, which meant I had to get a permit.

Yes if you can get on one near to your job but they are really expensive and as you probably know worrying about how long you have left on a meter while trying to do a job is not good.


The loading bays are the best - if you find one say 5 mins from your shop you trot off to deliver or drop off come back 10 mins later and get a ticket because to be unloading you have to have the doors open and be with the vehicle.

Try getting a loading bay in West Street or the Lanes close to where you are working - nightmare.

 

[Triggaaar]

The point about reducing speeds has NEVER been about catching people out

I didn't say it was. They say it's about safety, so they target some roads, and then they say it's about safety again, and target completely different roads. I understand what you say about 'aterial' roads, but the reality is that people slow down for the cameras, not for the whole road.

Plus, it's hardly a Green initiative - one, the Tories on the council voted for it

I know. I am simple against it, and will vote for anyone that promises to put it all back to 30. Unless they can show me that there were many deaths before the reduction to 20mph, which have been stopped.

 

[BN9 BHA]

Yes if you can get on one near to your job but they are really expensive and as you probably know worrying about how long you have left on a meter while trying to do a job is not good.


The loading bays are the best - if you find one say 5 mins from your shop you trot off to deliver or drop off come back 10 mins later and get a ticket because to be unloading you have to have the doors open and be with the vehicle.

Try getting a loading bay in West Street or the Lanes close to where you are working - nightmare.

I can see a flaw with the leaving the van with the doors open, someone will unload it for you!!

I sometimes use meters when I work in Lewes but I'm always checking the time and worrying about getting a ticket.