POLL: Do you want Poyet to stay?

[Thunder Bolt]

Also the only manager in many years that's had money to spend

But also brought some fantastic players in on frees.

 

[stss30]

We didn't lose a game where we scored first, and Poyet has the 3rd best win ratio in the history of the club. Great statistics which shows that you can use any statistic to argue a point.

And how big was his budget compared to all of our previous managers? I think, considering Poyet broke our record transfer twice for 2 attacking players a couple of seasons ago we would have expected to see us comeback from behind more than once in this period. I like the fact that Gus likes to keep it tight at the back, but it's quite simply unnecessary in my opinion to play two holding midfielders (who score practically no goals) at home against virtually every team in the division and rely on our 4 'attacking' players to make something happen.

 

[BLOCK F]

Those who want him to stay must be deluded.
Do you really think things could ever get back to 'normal' and the good ship Albion would sale on towards the Prem as if nothing has happened?
No,we don't yet know the details,but regardless of that IMHO there is no going back,it just wouldn't work.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

And how big was his budget compared to all of our previous managers? I think, considering Poyet broke our record transfer twice for 2 attacking players a couple of seasons ago we would have expected to see us comeback from behind more than once in this period. I like the fact that Gus likes to keep it tight at the back, but it's quite simply unnecessary in my opinion to play two holding midfielders (who score practically no goals) at home against virtually every team in the division and rely on our 4 'attacking' players to make something happen.

Gus always said it was a work in progress. It took 18 months to land Ulloa, our two wingers had injury problems and then no sooner did we play with two strikers, then one got a long term injury and the other a long ban. Hardly the fault of the manager.

 

[Wilko 1901]

Those who want him to stay must be deluded.
Do you really think things could ever get back to 'normal' and the good ship Albion would sale on towards the Prem as if nothing has happened?
No,we don't yet know the details,but regardless of that IMHO there is no going back,it just wouldn't work.

This. His position is untenable.

 

[jameswestport]

We wont get anyone who is a better manager so its a yes for me

 

[Brighton Breezy]

But what if it turns out he has NOT breached his contract or done anything wrong?

 

[BLOCK F]

But what if it turns out he has NOT breached his contract or done anything wrong?

Then I would be very surprised.

 

[Albumen]

I would rather see us play the Poyet style than more direct football BUT to compare his approach with that of Spain is wrong.

Spain and Barcelona pressure high up the pitch, play with width and move the ball very quickly. They also play passing football at far higher a tempo and the vast majority of touches and passes are made in the midfield in advanced positions, not slowly, along the back four.

To liken the Albion's appoach to Spain etc is just lazy. There are many different types of passing football.

If anything, our approach is more like the style adopted by a lot of Italian sides in the mid 90s. Slow, building from the back, limited numbers of attacking players with the pressure for creativity placed on the shoulders' of a couple of players. Solidity in defence the priority.

And the fact that he's managed to do that in the Championship with Championship players is a massive acheivement. Massive.

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

And how big was his budget compared to all of our previous managers? I think, considering Poyet broke our record transfer twice for 2 attacking players a couple of seasons ago we would have expected to see us comeback from behind more than once in this period. I like the fact that Gus likes to keep it tight at the back, but it's quite simply unnecessary in my opinion to play two holding midfielders (who score practically no goals) at home against virtually every team in the division and rely on our 4 'attacking' players to make something happen.

I've no idea how it compares to managers in the 70's, 80' and early 90's, football finances have changed so much. Its arguable that Adams had a bigger budget relative to the other teams in div 3 at the time. Clearly Coppell and McGhee would have killed for a budget like his.

But a fairer comparison is against other teams in our division. No doubt Leicester, Forest, Middlesbrough, Bolton had bigger budgets than us, I expect Birmingham, Wolves, Leeds did too. They've all got bigger stadiums than us as well, and we finished above all of them.

 

[stss30]

Gus always said it was a work in progress. It took 18 months to land Ulloa, our two wingers had injury problems and then no sooner did we play with two strikers, then one got a long term injury and the other a long ban. Hardly the fault of the manager.

I'm not saying he's a bad manager, I think most of his signings were great with a couple of exceptions, I just don't think he is tactically good enough to manage at a higher level at this moment in time, which is why I won't be gutted to see him go. I think if we can hold the basis of our squad together and make a couple of smart signings we could do well next season.

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

If anything, our approach is more like the style adopted by a lot of Italian sides in the mid 90s. Slow, building from the back, limited numbers of attacking players with the pressure for creativity placed on the shoulders' of a couple of players. Solidity in defence the priority.

We have not taken the same approach over the time he has been here. I know Poyet likes to say we always play the same way - but take that with a pinch of salt. Last season, with Ulloa on board, we played the direct ball much more often. And defence is the priority - but Bridge and Bruno were never wholly defensive full-backs.

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

As usual your totally wrong, Matt. What we NEED is two ranks of FOUR, with TWO wingers and a BIG MAN UP FRONT. Defenders don't need to pass either so lets get rid of Greer and his silly bollocks and put in a bid for Colin Hawkins. Take a look at Peterborough, Wolves or Bristol City. They got it RIGHT. Whereas GUS and his silly pass the ball around, make space, intelligent football bollocks only managed to get us 4TH. Our highest finish in DECADES.

I'm just SALIVATING at the thought of a PROPER manager with PROPER tactics coming in and sorting out this MESS created by Gus and his tactical NAIVITY.

Firstly I want the new man to GRAB Lil Liam Bridcutt and tell him "LIAM. NO. The goal is THAT WAY. No more of this silly passing backwards nonsense. How the HELL are we meant to score if we're going the WRONG way?"

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

I would rather see us play the Poyet style than more direct football BUT to compare his approach with that of Spain is wrong.

Spain and Barcelona pressure high up the pitch, play with width and move the ball very quickly. They also play passing football at far higher a tempo and the vast majority of touches and passes are made in the midfield in advanced positions, not slowly, along the back four.

To liken the Albion's appoach to Spain etc is just lazy. There are many different types of passing football.

If anything, our approach is more like the style adopted by a lot of Italian sides in the mid 90s. Slow, building from the back, limited numbers of attacking players with the pressure for creativity placed on the shoulders' of a couple of players. Solidity in defence the priority.

I think he aspires to it. All good managers build from the back. Poyet's first half season with us was all about solidifying the defence, ending with us staying up easy, and the next season tearing L1 a new one. Its taking a bit longer in the Champ but the signs are there that we're developing into a good attacking side. How sad it is being cut off mid-project.

 

[Justice]

I've no idea how it compares to managers in the 70's, 80' and early 90's, football finances have changed so much. Its arguable that Adams had a bigger budget relative to the other teams in div 3 at the time. Clearly Coppell and McGhee would have killed for a budget like his.

But a fairer comparison is against other teams in our division. No doubt Leicester, Forest, Middlesbrough, Bolton had bigger budgets than us, I expect Birmingham, Wolves, Leeds did too. They've all got bigger stadiums than us as well, and we finished above all of them.

Not sure the size of stadium is relevant as they had smaller gates than us.

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

Not sure the size of stadium is relevant as they had smaller gates than us.

Its not relevant to anything other than countering the argument oft put forward that with our new stadium and bigger transfer budget 'we should have easily got top 2 and Gus blew it'. All its done is give us some parity but we're still behind the big guns in this division in terms of spending power and attractiveness to players, so that Gus HAS over-achieved.

 

[8ace]

But also brought some fantastic players in on frees.

Who we could offer decent wages to.

 

[glasfryn]

Not sure the size of stadium is relevant as they had smaller gates than us.

and if he goes and we end up with a ping-pong manager then will we have a full stadium?

 

[Justice]

Its not relevant to anything other than countering the argument oft put forward that with our new stadium and bigger transfer budget 'we should have easily got top 2 and Gus blew it'. All its done is give us some parity but we're still behind the big guns in this division in terms of spending power and attractiveness to players, so that Gus HAS over-achieved.

The only difference between us and the three that went up were tactics we got ours wrong at home. The budget excuse is just that an excuse.

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

The only difference between us and the three that went up were tactics we got ours wrong at home. The budget excuse is just that an excuse.

We were still building a team for the first half of the season. BY the end we had a team good enough to get automatic. Shame we ran into our rivals in the play-offs. Next year would have been very interesting. It may still be.