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Especially those pits breaking even in Yorkshire/Lancashire compared to those in Nottingham/Derbyshireand the economic viability maybe?
Especially those pits breaking even in Yorkshire/Lancashire compared to those in Nottingham/Derbyshireand the economic viability maybe?
And he still wants the union to pay for his flat in the Barbican (£34k a year) and he wants them to pay for it for his widow after he's gone. His greed and selfishness is beyond compare.
Reynauds Syndrome
Yes i have heard that labour actually closed more mines.
However it wasn't down to the pit closures but the privatisation of everything that put Thatcher in a bad light... It was inevitable that the mines were going to close.
I still haven't been able to work out if we had enough money in the bank to bring the country forward and whether privatisation was genuinely the wrong option.
How much state owned industry is left in the world and where?
Was that more commonly known as "vibration white-finger" 30 years ago ?
I think you're confusing things here.
It's irrelevant how many coal mines were closed, it's the manner in which it was done is what caused the most issues.
Miners were literally given 2 weeks notice of cessation of employment, no redundancy payout and no pension.
The biggest issue though was that people who had worked all their life in mining communities just lost everything including their homes and the cost of the closures, even now far outweighed the cost of keeping them open.
The irony now is that many Conservaties accept that if we'dve continued coal production for just another 10 years then our current thirst for energy would not be half as reliant on foreign imports as it currently is and we would therefore be paying around 40% less than our electricity than we are now!
So nothing to do with Thatcher appointing McGregor as Chairman of the NCB after his hatchet jobs at British Leyland and British Steel ?
On a more local level, every time I pass the disused Shoreham Cement Works I wonder how a company was allowed to literally tear into the open countryside, extract, sell and then leave a complete mess for decades afterwards.
It is indicative of the short-termism and complacency that dogged politics in the 50s, 60s and 70s.
No, not a lot. Previous posters have clearly outlined how far back the coal industry went into decline and pits started closing. Scargill did a much better job at finishing off the industry than Thatcher or McGregor could ever have dreamed of doing.
I think you're confusing things here.
It's irrelevant how many coal mines were closed, it's the manner in which it was done is what caused the most issues.
Miners were literally given 2 weeks notice of cessation of employment, no redundancy payout and no pension.
The biggest issue though was that people who had worked all their life in mining communities just lost everything including their homes and the cost of the closures, even now far outweighed the cost of keeping them open.
The irony now is that many Conservaties accept that if we'dve continued coal production for just another 10 years then our current thirst for energy would not be half as reliant on foreign imports as it currently is and we would therefore be paying around 40% less than our electricity than we are now!
I still haven't been able to work out if we had enough money in the bank to bring the country forward and whether privatisation was genuinely the wrong option.
How much state owned industry is left in the world and where?
Thatcher knew full well that McGregor in charge of the NCB would get Scargill's back up.
I think you're confusing things here.
It's irrelevant how many coal mines were closed, it's the manner in which it was done is what caused the most issues.
Miners were literally given 2 weeks notice of cessation of employment, no redundancy payout and no pension.
The biggest issue though was that people who had worked all their life in mining communities just lost everything including their homes and the cost of the closures, even now far outweighed the cost of keeping them open.
The irony now is that many Conservaties accept that if we'dve continued coal production for just another 10 years then our current thirst for energy would not be half as reliant on foreign imports as it currently is and we would therefore be paying around 40% less than our electricity than we are now!
Another ridiculous myth about Thatcher quelled.
Like the one about the NHS cuts. Thatcher spent more on the NHS than Labour had done. FACT.
But the looney lefties just want someone to blame for their own failures.
Left wing politics never works. It's ideolistic baloney.
Isn't that what politicians have been doing for years and years? Is having your "back got up" an excuse for anything?
True.The biggest issue though was that people who had worked all their life in mining communities just lost everything including their homes
Not true. There's nothing to back that up.and the cost of the closures, even now far outweighed the cost of keeping them open.
Eh? So if we'd have used our own coal (instead of imported) for another 10 years, what would we have been using after that, and how would that be different to now? That makes no sense at all. And keeping our coal industry going a little longer would have had no effect on the global price of energy today.The irony now is that many Conservaties accept that if we'dve continued coal production for just another 10 years then our current thirst for energy would not be half as reliant on foreign imports as it currently is and we would therefore be paying around 40% less than our electricity than we are now!