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Publius Ovidius

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And another team you've just played against :thumbsup:

I was actually, as an England fan looking towards the future, dissapointed with Wilfred yesterday. I didn't think he got into the game at all, whereas the French winger was absolutely brilliant. I can't remember seeing another winger beat so many players in one game. No wonder FFs gets so many goals with that service.
 


Broady

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The divisions best hold up player (Danny Graham) and forward (Scott Sinclair). Nobody else even came close to them when they were on form. Their style of football wasn't the main reason they went up, it was the quality of their squad. Their midfield was tough and hard to break down, but they also chipped in with a lot of goals (Darren Pratley in particular).

Graham was at watford the year they went up, they only had him when they got in the prem.
 


Glenn-Murray

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Jun 24, 2011
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Graham was at watford the year they went up, they only had him when they got in the prem.

Fair enough, yes he was. They actually had Moore/Dobbie in front. Not to mention Allen, who is now playing every week for Liverpool.
 






Glenn-Murray

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I was actually, as an England fan looking towards the future, dissapointed with Wilfred yesterday. I didn't think he got into the game at all, whereas the French winger was absolutely brilliant. I can't remember seeing another winger beat so many players in one game. No wonder FFs gets so many goals with that service.

Quite. Wilfried gets double or tripled marked in every game he plays. This leaves an awful lot of space for our other players, and with you having 10 men it meant that Bolasie had even more room to work with.

Teams come to Selhurst expecting to shut Zaha down and hope to stifle our attacking threat that way. They haven't worked out yet that Bolasie can do almost as much damage when he's left to his own devices!
 


Stat Brother

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We've got two, we just seem to not want to use them at the same time though, still, least we've created a new position for football manager 2014 DLW, Defensive Left Winger!
Along with a third defensive midfielder.
 




Stat Brother

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Quite. Wilfried gets double or tripled marked in every game he plays. This leaves an awful lot of space for our other players, and with you having 10 men it meant that Bolasie had even more room to work with.

Teams come to Selhurst expecting to shut Zaha down and hope to stifle our attacking threat that way. They haven't worked out yet that Bolasie can do almost as much damage when he's left to his own devices!
And boy did he have the room.
Zaha or Buckley would throw their grannies under a bus to get that amount of space.
 


We're the Stripes

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Graham was at watford the year they went up, they only had him when they got in the prem.
Correct. I'm not even sure who lead their line for most of that season. Borini came in and did a decent job towards the end in a 4-5-1 - but most of their goals came from midfield and the wings, Sinclair with the majority (quite a few pens I recall), then Pratley managed a decent total. I think Dobbie may have been the highest scoring of their strikers, but even he probably played in a more attacking midfield role.
 


Publius Ovidius

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I have actually thought for quite a while now that our back 4 are not competent enough to play Gus's pass it along the back game.

We really struggle when teams run at us and close us down.

I think apart from a lack of an out and out goal scorer, like a kevin Phillips type player, this squad is capable of great things, but I would look at the centre backs in the transfer window.
 




Bold Seagull

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Correct. I'm not even sure who lead their line for most of that season. Borini came in and did a decent job towards the end in a 4-5-1 - but most of their goals came from midfield and the wings, Sinclair with the majority (quite a few pens I recall), then Pratley managed a decent total. I think Dobbie may have been the highest scoring of their strikers, but even he probably played in a more attacking midfield role.

Sinclair got 24, Pratley 11, Dobbie 9, Borini 6, Van Der Gun 5, Beattie 4, Moore 3, Williams 3, Allen 2
 


BrianSwan

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Apr 15, 2012
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[MENTION=24337]BrianSwan[/MENTION]. Maybe he can tell us where we're going wrong

Our fans were always 100% behind the manager, never screamed to lump the ball forward and fully embraced our style.

If you can do the same and wait another season then you'll do the same as us. It took us 3 seasons, you're in your second now. The Championship is the best place you can learnt his style of football because there are 8 games more per season and no desperate pressure to stay up like there would be in the Premier League.
 


BrianSwan

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The divisions best hold up player (Danny Graham) and forward (Scott Sinclair). Nobody else even came close to them when they were on form. Their style of football wasn't the main reason they went up, it was the quality of their squad. Their midfield was tough and hard to break down, but they also chipped in with a lot of goals (Darren Pratley in particular).


We didn't have Graham in the Championship

And btw, the only reason I'm on this forum is because I see the similarities between your team and ours and am supporting it.
 






Doc Lynam

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Jun 19, 2011
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Our fans were always 100% behind the manager, never screamed to lump the ball forward and fully embraced our style.

If you can do the same and wait another season then you'll do the same as us. It took us 3 seasons, you're in your second now. The Championship is the best place you can learnt his style of football because there are 8 games more per season and no desperate pressure to stay up like there would be in the Premier League.

Very good points.
 


Ninja Elephant

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[MENTION=24337]BrianSwan[/MENTION], did you sacrifice Stephen Dobbie by playing out of position as a kind of holding left winger? Or did Rodgers decide that actually, your full backs didn't need someone holding their hand. I suspect that Wayne Bridge is atleast as good now as Neil Taylor was for you then, we do not need someone in that kind of bizarre do nothing of note role on the left. The difference between Brighton and Swansea, in my opinion, is that we're VERY defensive and cautious whereas Swansea set up to attack with pace and style. I like Bridcutt, but he's not as good as Joe Allen. I would say he's probably on a par with Leon Britton though.
 


Turkey

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Jul 4, 2003
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Our fans were always 100% behind the manager, never screamed to lump the ball forward and fully embraced our style.

If you can do the same and wait another season then you'll do the same as us. It took us 3 seasons, you're in your second now. The Championship is the best place you can learnt his style of football because there are 8 games more per season and no desperate pressure to stay up like there would be in the Premier League.

Shame some of the dimwits on here demand instant success. Act like children, utterly pathetic.
 




BrianSwan

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[MENTION=24337]BrianSwan[/MENTION], did you sacrifice Stephen Dobbie by playing out of position as a kind of holding left winger? Or did Rodgers decide that actually, your full backs didn't need someone holding their hand. I suspect that Wayne Bridge is atleast as good now as Neil Taylor was for you then, we do not need someone in that kind of bizarre do nothing of note role on the left. The difference between Brighton and Swansea, in my opinion, is that we're VERY defensive and cautious whereas Swansea set up to attack with pace and style. I like Bridcutt, but he's not as good as Joe Allen. I would say he's probably on a par with Leon Britton though.

Nope and I think that is the biggest difference between our sides in the Championship (we changed again), he used Dyer and Sinclair to hug the touch line so we always had huge width and a pressure reliever for the defence. Dobbie played behind the striker for us. If you had someone like a Tom Ince on one wing and Buckley the other, I think you could replicate us in our third season.

In our second season we were extremely defensive and only scored 40 goals the entire season.
 


stss30

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Apr 24, 2008
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Nope and I think that is the biggest difference between our sides in the Championship (we changed again), he used Dyer and Sinclair to hug the touch line so we always had huge width and a pressure reliever for the defence. Dobbie played behind the striker for us. If you had someone like a Tom Ince on one wing and Buckley the other, I think you could replicate us in our third season.

In our second season we were extremely defensive and only scored 40 goals the entire season.

It does sounds very, very similar. We are improving the squad bit by bit, all we need is a goalscorer, another class winger who can score goals, and a centre back who is comfortable with the ball at his feet.
 


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