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drew

Drew
Oct 3, 2006
23,173
Burgess Hill
That is great news after yesterdays news that most clubs including Man U and Arsenal have seen a reduction in season ticket sales. I wonder what exactly is the upper limit that could be achieved if needed. Has the design the facilities for adding another tier for example. But lets not run before we can walk which I am sure the powers that be at the club will ensure.

The only expansion can be within the existing roof. That means filling in the corners and another tier above the existing East Stand. They cannot do more than that without taking off the roof and I don't believe they wouldn't be able to do that within a close season period!
 




Icy Gull

Back on the rollercoaster
Jul 5, 2003
72,015
Personally don't think we would or should put in more seats until we are well established as one of the better teams in the Championship or on the verge of getting into the Premier League. Get the permission fine, but don't actually fill in the corners until we are CERTAIN that we can sell the seats.
 


algie

The moaning of life
Jan 8, 2006
14,713
In rehab
Personally don't think we would or should put in more seats until we are well established as one of the better teams in the Championship or on the verge of getting into the Premier League. Get the permission fine, but don't actually fill in the corners until we are CERTAIN that we can sell the seats.
Don't agree with that at all. If there is a demand for more seats then the club should move pretty quickly. We don't won't people on the waiting list to lose interest and go elsewhere.
 


Easy 10

Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Jul 5, 2003
61,887
Location Location
Personally don't think we would or should put in more seats until we are well established as one of the better teams in the Championship or on the verge of getting into the Premier League. Get the permission fine, but don't actually fill in the corners until we are CERTAIN that we can sell the seats.

The demand is there, and the away end is already too small - there are plenty of clubs at this level who could easily bring more than 2,300 down.

Get those corners filled in and give at least one of them over to the away fans I reckons. We can then allocate on a game-by-game basis. If the likes of Leeds or Pompey are in town, then give them another 500 seats in the south-east or south-west corner. If its a smaller club with poor away support like Palace then keep it at 2,300 and sell the southern away corner seats to home fans.
 
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BLOCK F

Well-known member
Feb 26, 2009
6,433
Don't agree with that at all. If there is a demand for more seats then the club should move pretty quickly. We don't won't people on the waiting list to lose interest and go elsewhere.

Yup,I agree with that!
 




8ace

Banned
Jul 21, 2003
23,811
Brighton
The demand is there, and the away end is already too small - there are plenty of clubs at this level who could easily bring more than 2,300 down.

Get those corners filled in and give at least one of them over to the away fans I reckons. We can then allocate on a game-by-game basis. If the likes of Leeds or Pompey are in town, then give them another 500 seats in the south-east or south-west corner. If its a smaller club with poor away support like Palace then keep it at 2,500 and sell the southern away corner seats to home fans.

Will there be additional vomitories in the corners? If the ingress/egress is from the South Stand then this maybe prohibtive.
 


DarrenFreemansPerm

⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Sep 28, 2010
17,349
Shoreham
East Upper should be done before the corners to stop the ground looking so 'one-sided.' With a two-tiered East the Amex will look a bit more sensible.

It would indeed look more balanced, but cost wise you'd have to imagine corners are cheaper to fill in than the upper east(i kmow the majority of infastructure is complete)
 


Icy Gull

Back on the rollercoaster
Jul 5, 2003
72,015
Don't agree with that at all. If there is a demand for more seats then the club should move pretty quickly. We don't won't people on the waiting list to lose interest and go elsewhere.

Hasn't happened at Arsenal or Tottenham though has it where the waiting lists are massive? We are gonna need to be flying this season to have any hope of seling the same number of season tickets next year imo.
It would be foolish to expand without a couple of seasons of sell outs or unless we were going in the Premier League. Just imo like

12k in a 30k stadium would be awful and we don't have a history of massive gates so let's not ride the 1st season euphoria, better to wait and see what the future brings.
 




Beach Hut

Brighton Bhuna Boy
Jul 5, 2003
72,071
Living In a Box
The club should wait at least two seasons to work out exact demand prior to any expansion.
 


algie

The moaning of life
Jan 8, 2006
14,713
In rehab
The club should wait at least two seasons to work out exact demand prior to any expansion.

Why wait? The club is flying at the moment and if you filled the corners in now and they all get taken then surely it was pay for itself in no time?
 


algie

The moaning of life
Jan 8, 2006
14,713
In rehab
Hasn't happened at Arsenal or Tottenham though has it where the waiting lists are massive? We are gonna need to be flying this season to have any hope of seling the same number of season tickets next year imo.
It would be foolish to expand without a couple of seasons of sell outs or unless we were going in the Premier League. Just imo like

12k in a 30k stadium would be awful and we don't have a history of massive gates so let's not ride the 1st season euphoria, better to wait and see what the future brings.

That's football for you when you go through a bad patch. Middlesboro last season were only getting 14k in a 30k plus stadium.
 




Beach Hut

Brighton Bhuna Boy
Jul 5, 2003
72,071
Living In a Box
Basically because as with most businesses if you expand too quickly invariably it causes problems. We need the novelty value of the Amex to wear off first so we know the true fanbase.
 


Tom Hark Preston Park

Will Post For Cash
Jul 6, 2003
70,829
The club should wait at least two seasons to work out exact demand prior to any expansion.

Wouldn't there be a lead time involved tho? So you'd need to project what the demand was going to be some way down the line. Seem to recall it took forever to get the 800 extra seats in at Withdean due to planning applications process, objections, all the usual hoops.
 


Icy Gull

Back on the rollercoaster
Jul 5, 2003
72,015
Wouldn't there be a lead time involved tho? So you'd need to project what the demand was going to be some way down the line. Seem to recall it took forever to get the 800 extra seats in at Withdean due to planning applications process, objections, all the usual hoops.

Hopefully the Falmer nimbys feel bludgeoned into submission and won't expend any more money or energy trying to stop the inevitable. I imagine the only thing that will hold us back is if the links to get to and leave the stadium can't cope and chaos reigns at the end of every home game.
 




CHAPPERS

DISCO SPENG
Jul 5, 2003
44,835
The demand is there, and the away end is already too small - there are plenty of clubs at this level who could easily bring more than 2,300 down.

Get those corners filled in and give at least one of them over to the away fans I reckons. We can then allocate on a game-by-game basis. If the likes of Leeds or Pompey are in town, then give them another 500 seats in the south-east or south-west corner. If its a smaller club with poor away support like Palace then keep it at 2,300 and sell the southern away corner seats to home fans.

Happily the concourse areas in the stands are already able to deal with something like this.
 


crodonilson

He/Him
Jan 17, 2005
13,667
Lyme Regis
Beach Hut and Icy Gull are bang on. There's always a big spike when a club moves to a new ground and then the novelty wears off and crowds decrease.
 


fataddick

Well-known member
Feb 6, 2004
1,602
The seaside.
There's no harm in applying for the planning permission as early as possible (although stuff like demonstrating the existing capacity isn't enough and isn't the maximum that transport access can cope with, means it would likely need to wait at least half a season). You can then decide later if and when you want to take up that planning permission. We got approval seven years ago to take the Valley up from 27k to 41k (in four stages). Obviously we won't be proceeding with it any time soon, but it's useful that planning permission is there if and when by some fluke we actually need it...
 


Biscuit

Native Creative
Jul 8, 2003
22,240
Brighton
OK sorry in advance because I know this has been done to death but:

With the corners filled in what's the capacity?

Then with an extra tier on the East Stand, what's the capacity?

ta
 






Storer 68

New member
Apr 19, 2011
2,827
With our catchment area, you'd think we'd be able to get 25k+ consistently in the top of the Championship/Premiership, but we'd probably need 30k-35k to have a chance of staying up (assuming that we spend within out means)

Ha hah ha h ha.

we thought that in 1979.

so we put in the highest terrace prices in the First Division

and then we stayed in the bottom half of the table . And we gave some players ten year contracts (some players didn't stay for half that time!)

We never once got a 20,000 crowd at the Goldstone in division 1
 


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