[Music] Albums you thought were legendary but no longer think so....

[Herr Tubthumper]

I was listening to some old thrash albums a while back and back-in-the-day Anthrax’s Among The Living was a classic in my mind….but it’s aged badly mainly due to the production.

Slayer’s Reign In Blood on the other hand still sounds fresh and brutal as day 1.

 

[Pevenseagull]

The point about lyrics is interesting. Not an album but a track, “Girl, you’ll be a woman soon” by Urge Overkill was always associated in my brain with deep cool because of Una Thurman dancing to it in Pulp Fiction. Then the same song gets unpacked as a lounge crooner special by Biddu Orchestra on Norman Cook’s ‘Back to Mine’ and you just go “f**k me, this is creepy”

I blame Neil Diamond.

 

[Guinness Boy]

I blame Neil Diamond.

Ha ha. I’ve never heard that version but I’m going to assume it’s creepy too.

 

[METALMICKY]

Someday I'm going to smack your face...
You're way past your station
Beat you honey till you drop

And of course the one that had my two female black friends feeling quite uncomfortable when they did it at the Buccanneer, so one of them told me 30 years later.

With respect I'm not sure your friends may have understood that songs sentiment. Sadly people didn't look much further than use of the taboo word. This explains it better than I can

Lyrical controversy

We recently received an email from someone concerned that the band had chosen to play a seemingly racist song 'I feel like a wog' on the Bla...

stranglers-ratter.blogspot.com

 

[METALMICKY]

I doubt he’s referring to that as it’s on a different album - No More Heroes.

Ooops my bad!

 

[herecomesaregular]

Ha ha. I’ve never heard that version but I’m going to assume it’s creepy too.

He wrote it!

 

[pearl]

When Nevermind came out I had it on repeat for years .... now I appreciate Nirvana's other albums were far superior

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

With respect I'm not sure your friends may have understood that songs sentiment. Sadly people didn't look much further than use of the taboo word. This explains it better than I can

Lyrical controversy

We recently received an email from someone concerned that the band had chosen to play a seemingly racist song 'I feel like a wog' on the Bla...

stranglers-ratter.blogspot.com

Yes, I know what the song is about, and at the time I liked it. This thread is about music you loved 'then', but now don't.

In any case, just think about it:

"I feel like a Paki. I feel like a Chink. I feel like a spik...." I could go on. It would take the logic of The Major in Fawlty Towers to explain why 'wog' is fine but 'paki' isn't.

I felt at the time the group knew exactly what they were doing. Despite all the intellectual mansplaining in the NME and Sounds. No lessons learned from how Alf Garnet became a pin up boy of middle aged racists, despite him being created to mock them. Back then this didn't spoil my enjoyment of the music. Now.....it does. That's all.

Incidentally I loved 'The cops are coming' by the Heavy Metal Kids, and 'Stranglehold' by the UK Subs. Have a listen to the lyrics and see how well they have stood the test of time........

As for my friends, being black and hearing a band sing 'feel like a wog'......people having sly looks to see how they were reacting.....they felt uncomfortable. No more than that, just uncomfortable. Not because of the revelation of an uncomfortable truth, but because of how the word was normally used back then. "Wog's out" (sic). Etc..

 

[Pevenseagull]

Ha ha. I’ve never heard that version but I’m going to assume it’s creepy too.

He wrote it!


Edit just seen @herecomesaregular has already made the same comment


Exactly the same comment.

 

[aolstudios]

Pink Floyd The Wall in retrospect was crap except for one song which we all know!

Seconded.
Whiney, posh boy dirges

 

[Pavilionaire]

What's The Story Morning Glory?

For me, Definitely Maybe was their best album, the right balance of rock, swagger and balance in the band. Thereafter, Noel became too dominant, the music too derivative of The Beatles, too forced, this culminating in 1997's Be Here Now.

After DM they are still good albums, but not great and not ones I find myself playing these days.

Contrast this with Led Zeppelin's Houses Of The Holy, which is a band totally in synch making rock seem effortless and natural, an enduring great album.

 

[pearl]

There's legions of stuff in my record collection that haven't aged well (in fact, the idea of sitting and listening to an LP all the way through hasn't aged well either!) - or perhaps it's us that have done the ageing (and maybe not so well either)!
I think that's just a pretty natural progression, rather than a dramatic fall of a legend into rubbishness.

Yes, I agree, we change and it depends on what mood we're in etc. Sometimes I feel like blasting Iggy Pop through my headphones, other days I can't stand him.
Also (jimho) younger bands come along inspired by older stuff and just do it better.

 

[Machiavelli]

I remember, ages ago, seeing Bob Geldof as a panelist on a TV show about the best albums of all time and being extremely irritated that he dismissed the nomination of 'The Stone Roses' as recency bias. Twenty something years on, I reconsider my reaction and say...

F**k you Geldof it's still one of the best albums of all time.

Now I know why you don't like The Beatles.

 

[Machiavelli]

Ha ha. I’ve never heard that version but I’m going to assume it’s creepy too.

If my memory is working right, I disagree, as my memory tells me it's on that Rick Rubin produced acoustic album which is very good.

 

[Machiavelli]

As with The Stone Roses, all Oasis albums have always been sh!te. But, back on topic, I used to think Never Mind the Bollocks was a great album full of great tunes. It really hasn't aged well.

 

[Icy Gull]

Seconded.
Whiney, posh boy dirges

Roger Waters “I’m in charge with a big chip on my shoulder“ dirges. The others had pretty much f*** all to do with it other than playing on it I think.

 

[dejavuatbtn]

Yes, Going for the one
and
Focus, At the Rainbow

all a bit pretentious now.

 

[birthofanorange]

There's legions of stuff in my record collection that haven't aged well (in fact, the idea of sitting and listening to an LP all the way through hasn't aged well either!) - or perhaps it's us that have done the ageing (and maybe not so well either)!
I think that's just a pretty natural progression, rather than a dramatic fall of a legend into rubbishness.

Yep, especially the latter.

 

[birthofanorange]

The Fratellis - Costello Music
I played this to death when it came out, but the only song that still holds something for me is 'Whistle for the Choir'.

 

[Icy Gull]

James Taylor Sweet Baby James

Annoys me now and sounds twee and whingey, maybe I listened to it too much back in the day. Not sure I prefer anything else by him so not really in keeping with the thread title