[News] Royal Mail what next?

[Stat Brother]

Privatisation will prove to have been the worst thing that could have happened, both in terms of the company’s survival and as a key part of our national infrastructure

Fortunately, train travel, the utilities, housing etc have proven privatisation really works...




...oh.

 

[Brian Fantana]

Royal Mail and Parcelforce are a lot more joined up these days - the core functions in the background (sales, marketing, account management etc) are now shared between the two.

 

[Brian Fantana]

As with a lot of privatisations, it is the execution of it rather than the principle that has gone badly. As others have alluded to, Royal Mail has been REALLY slow to adapt to the diminishing letters market (c20billion to c8 billion in the past 5 years, near enough). That change has been on the agenda since way before privitisation, so both the ‘old’ and ‘new’ management are guilty of not pivoting the business fast enough to respond to a core part of the business which was always going to be decimated by e-substitution.

 

[Swansman]

Well it's pretty much only a three days a week service now anyway isn't it? especially whilst the industrial action is taking place, (which seems to be making no difference at all).

Such a shame, the GPO, (as was) was the lifeblood of communication until the advent of the internet, reponsible for the phone network too.

How times have changed, will be dead and gone, in it's present form, before too long l fear.

Bit like phone booths...

"Sad to see them go. I fear their demise!"

"When was the last time you used one?"

"25 years ago..."

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

Once retailers start giving customers a choice of delivery company I think it will be all over for Royal Mail. It’s an unreliable, anachronistic and inflexible service. Biggest bugbear at the moment, apart from unreliability from strikes is their refusal to leave packages in a safe place despite offering the service on their app. All other companies do it. Our usual postman will do it unofficially but the strikes have messed with the schedules so he can’t guarantee it. We have started cancelling online deliveries when we discover they are the delivery company.

 

[Arkwright]

Royal Mail and Parcelforce are a lot more joined up these days - the core functions in the background (sales, marketing, account management etc) are now shared between the two.

I heard that Parcel force was looking to franchise the rounds

 

[Stat Brother]

As with a lot of privatisations, it is the execution of it rather than the principle that has gone badly. As others have alluded to, Royal Mail has been REALLY slow to adapt to the diminishing letters market (c20billion to c8 billion in the past 5 years, near enough). That change has been on the agenda since way before privitisation, so both the ‘old’ and ‘new’ management are guilty of not pivoting the business fast enough to respond to a core part of the business which was always going to be decimated by e-substitution.

I mean this in the nicest possible way, you haven't got a clue about who you're dealing with.

 

[Brian Fantana]

I have. I’ve been in a room several times recently with a lot of senior CWU reps and officers. I’m well aware that the two sides are POLES apart in terms of their priorities and their views. I’m just giving my personal opinion on what has happened for the past few years.

 

[Brian Fantana]

To my knowledge, Parcelforce have had owner/drivers (essentially the franchise model) for quite a while. Happy to be corrected though.

 

[Stat Brother]

I have. I’ve been in a room several times recently with a lot of senior CWU reps and officers. I’m well aware that the two sides are POLES apart in terms of their priorities and their views. I’m just giving my personal opinion on what has happened for the past few years.

Ah but the bit they're hiding from you is just how far apart the CWU is from their membership.

 

[Brian Fantana]

Ha, I’ve had some insight into that too from working in the operation last week. Some of the stories I heard from the membership were somewhat libellous!

 

[The Seagull]

They're ok.
Many striking posties were able to hold the moral high ground which they've to used to intimidate working posties, while working Sunday overtime to supplement the wages they lost by striking in protest about the prospect of working Sunday's.

I think you’ll find that’s clearly bollocks. Very few posties work Sundays unless they are new and have it in their contract. They may work their day off to cover for the strike days. Please be better informed.

 

[Curryisgreat]

Ah but the bit they're hiding from you is just how far apart the CWU is from their membership.

Absolutely. Levels of self interest Arthur Scargill would despair at…

 

[Stat Brother]

I think you’ll find that’s clearly bollocks. Very few posties work Sundays unless they are new and have it in their contract. They may work their day off to cover for the strike days. Please be better informed.

RM offered Sunday packet delivery at £14.85 an hour in the run up to Christmas.
This was gratefully accepted by many a striking postie.

How much more information would you like?

 

[The Seagull]

Good luck dragging the old lag unionites with you.

Again you are a bit of a tit. The union looks after the workers. Royal Mail made record profits last year and now they say they are Losing £1 million a day ! How does that work unless it’s gross mismanagement ? And they paid the SEO for this a massive bonus ! You aren’t don’t have the knowledge to reply on this thread.

 

[Stat Brother]

Again you are a bit of a tit. The union looks after the workers. Royal Mail made record profits last year and now they say they are Losing £1 million a day ! How does that work unless it’s gross mismanagement ? And they paid the SEO for this a massive bonus ! You aren’t don’t have the knowledge to reply on this thread.

Odd thing to say to someone you don't know.

 

[Shropshire Seagull]

Adapt or die
Book by Charles Handy
With the evolution of business you can't carry on doing the same for ever, so adapt or die.
Problem is most union's think change doesn't enhance their members unless it comes with a wedge of cash as a sweetener.

 

[The Seagull]

Ah but the bit they're hiding from you is just how far apart the CWU is from their membership.

They’re not ! Tell me how ?

 

[The Seagull]

RM offered Sunday packet delivery at £14.85 an hour in the run up to Christmas.
This was gratefully accepted by many a striking postie.

How much more information would you like?

To agency staff. You haven’t got a clue son.

 

[Stat Brother]

To agency staff. You haven’t got a clue son.

Maybe in your office.