[Football] Chris Hughton: 'It’s a good feeling to be the manager of a big club'

[Icy Gull]

Poor CH, it does seem he has walked into a job that is a poisoned chalice.

 

[Hugo Rune]

I’ve not been keeping up with the championship but it doesn’t look like they’ve backed him.

They didn’t back him properly in the Summer. Reminds me of the Hyypia-era recruitment.

I hope Forest go to League One now in the hope they’ll get the sort of decent owners the fans deserve.

 

[GT49er]

Having worked with the likes of Barber & Bloom, it seemed odd that he’d linked up with the shower that runs Forest.

He transformed a shit Brighton squad but with no help from the Forest board, he has a weaker squad than last year. They’d struggle to survive, even with someone like Dyche or Klopp. I’m a little saddened Chris was given first dibs on the likes of Khadra, Sima or Clarke.

He was? Why didn't he take any of them, then - anyone know? Molumby would have been a useful addition too.

 

[madinthehead]

He has gone.. https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/58579227

 

[TomandJerry]

Hughton is the first manager to be sacked in England's top four divisions this season, with Steven Reid taking over as interim head coach while Forest search for a new boss.

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[Nobby Cybergoat]

It’s not that.

Mullery and Hughton are adored/respected for what they did to this modest football club. Hughton gave us an amazing 28 months delivering an astonishing number of wins, goals, hammerings and only our second ever stint in the top flight.

A few posters bizarrely seem to revel in his failure at Forest, I put that down to a reaction to people knocking Potter.

Over time, my guess is that Hughton will be universally revered by Albion fans.

Surely he is universally revered by Albion fans? I mean actual Albion fans who go to actual Albion games.

It doesn't matter who online trolls or Palace in disguise think.

Surely nobody who watched us play under him would have a bad word to say about him?

 

[Springal]

I still don’t understand why Hughton took the job. Given all the talk of waiting for the right job etc. I said this a few weeks ago - Forest have been a basket case for years, there was no suggestion anything was going to change. The average tenure of a Forest manager is the last 10 years isn’t even 12 months. In fact Hughton was their 18th manager since

That said the squad is better than 1 point from 7 games. And even last season they were not great. If Rooney can get Derby to 7 points (before their 9 point dedication) Hughton should have done better than he has.

Surprised by the Ireland talk. Not sure he fits what they are looking for, especially as they are already a team that defends to much and doesn’t score goals…June 2011

 

[Cowfold Seagull]

Love Chrissy Hughton, doesn't matter a jot to me what he does now at other clubs, it wouldn't ever change what he did for us. A legend amongst the managers of BHA in my lifetime, amongst Lloyd, Brady, Gritt, Adams, McGhee, Slade, Poyet. Potter still unproven but getting there. Not necessarily all due to their good management or results or success but because of the emotional connection you won't understand and may probably ridicule.

ps - Hughton was rightly dismissed by Bloom, as were others on the list above. All managers have a shelf life.

Well said.

 

[Uh_huh_him]

Sad to see the great man fail.
But he has failed this time.

 

[Wozza]

This is roughly equivilent to the time Clough was in charge...

 

[Pierre the Painter]

This is roughly equivilent to the time Clough was in charge...

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That's mind boggling isn't it?? Especially when you look at that list of names and there are some high calibre managers there. Something must be deeply wrong internally with that club, a crying shame given their history.

 

[Badger Boy]

That list is insane - in 20 years, only 3 managers have had more than 100 games in charge. There's your problem, immediately. Upheaval all over the place.

A real shame for Chris Hughton, a fine man who has been an excellent manager. I look forward to seeing him return to punditry.

 

[herecomesaregular]

I still don’t understand why Hughton took the job. Given all the talk of waiting for the right job etc. I said this a few weeks ago - Forest have been a basket case for years, there was no suggestion anything was going to change. The average tenure of a Forest manager is the last 10 years isn’t even 12 months. In fact Hughton was their 18th manager since

That said the squad is better than 1 point from 7 games. And even last season they were not great. If Rooney can get Derby to 7 points (before their 9 point dedication) Hughton should have done better than he has.

Surprised by the Ireland talk. Not sure he fits what they are looking for, especially as they are already a team that defends to much and doesn’t score goals…June 2011

Maybe Chris is an old-school romantic.

In the football world it's hard to go out at the top. Still, sad that the Forest job was a total disaster for him. Easy of course from the outside to criticise, shoulda, coulda done better but it will also depend on so many backroom factors we don't see.

 

[sparkie]

There is something very wrong at the core of forest.

Constant sacking of managers and having to rebuild the squad for the new guy. And abysmal recruitment.

A job CH should never have taken. I hope he gets another club soon.

 

[Mellotron]

I still don’t understand why Hughton took the job. Given all the talk of waiting for the right job etc. I said this a few weeks ago - Forest have been a basket case for years, there was no suggestion anything was going to change. The average tenure of a Forest manager is the last 10 years isn’t even 12 months. In fact Hughton was their 18th manager since

Just checked wikipedia - Nottingham Forest have now had 21 different managers June 2011. That would suggest an average tenure of about 6 months.

That's awful.

In their entire history, they've had 49 managers. 29 of them have been since the year 2000.

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

There is something very wrong at the core of forest.

Constant sacking of managers and having to rebuild the squad for the new guy. And abysmal recruitment.

A job CH should never have taken. I hope he gets another club soon.

The thing is any job a manager takes there is highly likely to be problems. There's a managerial vacancy for a reason, when things are rosy, the manager generally doesn't get sacked.

The Forest job is in theory a good job. They are a club capable of sustaining themselves in the top division. Yes the owner isn't great, but they're not great up and down the leagues, we're very lucky here.

When Hughton came here there was god-awful recruitment, the structure was wrong and an increasingly toxic atmosphere. But he took the job and turned it all around. Forest is a club someone will eventually take back to the top level. They may go down first and it may not be quick, but ultimately a club like that will rise to the top.

I look at it less that he shouldn't have taken it, more that it doesn't always work out. A good manager can fail at a good club. Sometimes it's hard to break the downward momentum

 

[JBizzle]

That list is insane - in 20 years, only 3 managers have had more than 100 games in charge. There's your problem, immediately. Upheaval all over the place.

A real shame for Chris Hughton, a fine man who has been an excellent manager. I look forward to seeing him return to punditry.

Agree on a lot of levels, but this role was never going to get Hughton out of his "fire-fighting" mode. He manages his teams based on his resources and was never going to turn a dour shower of rubbish into an expansive, attacking team. All the while any CH team is in trouble at the bottom of the league, he'll play safety first and hope to pick up points on the break.

Forest are a basket case of a club with a poor squad and little hope of staying up whoever is at the reigns.

 

[mike79]

“Clueless,” was the verdict of one first-team player, in a series of leaked WhatsApp messages seen by The Athletic. Hughton’s attempts to lift morale had not worked. “Comes in after the game and says we were brilliant until the goal,” read one message. “We had no ****ing shots.”

The player’s verdict was that it was, in the bluntest terms, “a shower of shit.” So bad, in fact, that he wanted to leave. The tactics were “the defenders and midfield bypass everyone and just boot the ball back to their keeper or the 6ft 6ins centre-half.”

 

[Change at Barnham]

Based on the list above of previous managers, no individual over the last ten years has made it to 60 games in charge.

That's less than one and a half seasons in length before they get the knife out.

 

[JBizzle]

The thing is any job a manager takes there is highly likely to be problems. There's a managerial vacancy for a reason, when things are rosy, the manager generally doesn't get sacked.

The Forest job is in theory a good job. They are a club capable of sustaining themselves in the top division. Yes the owner isn't great, but they're not great up and down the leagues, we're very lucky here.

When Hughton came here there was god-awful recruitment, the structure was wrong and an increasingly toxic atmosphere. But he took the job and turned it all around. Forest is a club someone will eventually take back to the top level. They may go down first and it may not be quick, but ultimately a club like that will rise to the top.

I look at it less that he shouldn't have taken it, more that it doesn't always work out. A good manager can fail at a good club. Sometimes it's hard to break the downward momentum

I agree, but Hughton also did what he had to do. When backed properly and given the chance to build a squad in the Championship he absolutely thrived, but the football played to keep us in the division was only marginally more tolerable that Hyypia. The key difference was that he made us harder to beat. He was effective, but fans hardly warmed to him that first 1/2 season.

Year two and three though, when he was backed, cleared dead wood and signed the players he needed he was able to build a squad capable of delivering a FAR better standard of football. Those two years were some of the best football games I've watched. We felt invincible and scored LOADS of goals. He created that and led that from the front. It's also an opportunity that was never going to present itself at Forest.