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[Finance] WTF American Express?



Mustafa II

Well-known member
Oct 14, 2022
1,262
Hove
Out of all the things to complain about in this country - banking is not one of them.

Unlikely many countries, it's free - more than free in fact - lots of rewards available for the financially savvy.

One person complaining that their overdraft was reduced - if you think about it, it's pretty mad that they gave you free credit like that in the first place.

Credit cards are brilliant - as long as you pay them off every month in full. Amazing consumer protection, and often semi-decent rewards just for spending money on things you would anyway.

Also these days, even the morons who get scammed by sending £1,000s to India from their current accounts often get their money back in full.

Great savings accounts on offer. Competitive borrowing rates. Even people in stupid amounts of debt get generous repayment plans in place if they can't afford it.

Banking in the UK is genuinely fantastic... even more so if you're on the ball and financially savvy.
 




Herr Tubthumper

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
59,889
The Fatherland
I too pay off my Amex every month - it’s got a massive APR and is useful only for racking up Avios, discounts at the Amex stadium, and biffing things I want to buy into the following month’s paycheque.

No idea how American Express make all that much money charging interest, if most customers are like us.
They also charge merchants a percentage. They won’t make any money from you, but they will from the other side of the transaction.
 


pasty

A different kind of pasty
Jul 5, 2003
30,374
West, West, West Sussex
Nah, this'll just be a bit of code along the lines of payment made > 5 and avail credit >50% = send letter. Nowhere near the vast data learning models used in AI which try to reason an answer rather than just following rules.
So literally the right answer. I used to work for them in printing and I once queried why debt letters were being sent out, chasing debt that was less than the cost of printing and sending the letter chasing it.

I did suggest we could easily apply code to not send a letter if the debt was less than x, but was told no.
 


Springal

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Feb 12, 2005
24,013
GOSBTS
They also charge merchants a percentage. They won’t make any money from you, but they will from the other side of the transaction.
And card fees of course on the premium cards
 


sparkie

Well-known member
Jul 17, 2003
12,569
Hove
Out of all the things to complain about in this country - banking is not one of them.

Unlikely many countries, it's free - more than free in fact - lots of rewards available for the financially savvy.

One person complaining that their overdraft was reduced - if you think about it, it's pretty mad that they gave you free credit like that in the first place.

Credit cards are brilliant - as long as you pay them off every month in full. Amazing consumer protection, and often semi-decent rewards just for spending money on things you would anyway.

Also these days, even the morons who get scammed by sending £1,000s to India from their current accounts often get their money back in full.

Great savings accounts on offer. Competitive borrowing rates. Even people in stupid amounts of debt get generous repayment plans in place if they can't afford it.

Banking in the UK is genuinely fantastic... even more so if you're on the ball and financially savvy.
Free ?

Overdrafts generally work out at just under 40% APR.
 




Mustafa II

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Oct 14, 2022
1,262
Hove
Free ?

Overdrafts generally work out at just under 40% APR.

Yes, banking in this country is free. In many countries you have to pay for the privilege of having a current account.

Also, overdrafts are optional. It's only really advisable to have them to avoid missing direct debits which could affect your credit score. Anyone who actually uses their overdraft intentionally is either in serious financial difficulty, or financially irresponsible, or both.
 


sparkie

Well-known member
Jul 17, 2003
12,569
Hove
Yes, banking in this country is free. In many countries you have to pay for the privilege of having a current account.

Also, overdrafts are optional. It's only really advisable to have them to avoid missing direct debits which could affect your credit score. Anyone who actually uses their overdraft intentionally is either in serious financial difficulty, or financially irresponsible, or both.
But you said banks in this country give free credit.

They do not.
 


Mustafa II

Well-known member
Oct 14, 2022
1,262
Hove
But you said banks in this country give free credit.

They do not.

Post #9 - a user complained that his free overdraft limit was reduced. Free overdrafts are often given to students, as well as other banking promotional offers.

There are other ways that banks offer free credit for a time, for example fee-free 0% interest credit cards.

Financially savvy people often choose to take advantage of these by utilising them, and putting the money aside in a high interest savings account, and pay it off in full when the offers expire.

Others will utilise them, not have the money to pay it back when the time comes, and get themselves in loads of debt as a result.
 






Sirnormangall

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Sep 21, 2017
2,983
No doubt completely unrelated to hitting a target for an end of year bonus. The financial services sector is a master at that.
 


dazzer6666

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NSC Patron
Mar 27, 2013
52,793
Burgess Hill
I too pay off my Amex every month - it’s got a massive APR and is useful only for racking up Avios, discounts at the Amex stadium, and biffing things I want to buy into the following month’s paycheque.

No idea how American Express make all that much money charging interest, if most customers are like us.
1-2% on every single purchase you make
 




The Optimist

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Apr 6, 2008
2,621
Lewisham
Barclay card offered interest free for the life of the balance on season ticket purchases years ago in the Withdean era. I’m still making the minimum payment on that now (£5 per month).
 








Official Old Man

Uckfield Seagull
Aug 27, 2011
8,603
Brighton
After seeing this thread I finally ordered an Amex Card. Offered me the standard £1200 credit, enough for my intended use to get 10% off at the Amex Stadium. Arrived today with £9900 credit limit. Blimey....
 


jakarta

Well-known member
May 25, 2007
15,640
Sullington
After seeing this thread I finally ordered an Amex Card. Offered me the standard £1200 credit, enough for my intended use to get 10% off at the Amex Stadium. Arrived today with £9900 credit limit. Blimey....
Mine is bigger than yours (ooh Matron) and will never get used- what are they thinking about?
 




Colonel Mustard

Well-known member
Jun 18, 2023
2,109
After seeing this thread I finally ordered an Amex Card. Offered me the standard £1200 credit, enough for my intended use to get 10% off at the Amex Stadium. Arrived today with £9900 credit limit. Blimey....
Do you pay an annual fee?

Edited - ignore. I’ve signed up too and can’t see an annual fee mentioned.
 
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