Would you vote for bombing ISIS in Syria?

[Dick Knights Mumm]

Funnily enough a rumoured deselection list has many of the same names on it

It is truly disgraceful.

It is not only a Labour problem though - we have the Europe referendum to come.

 

[Albumen]

That John Baron speaks well. Must be uncomfortable for the armchair generals on the front bench. Except they have naffed off.

Unfortunately the camera has just showed him nodding along to Alan Johnson, not squirming to John Baron.

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

What has Alan Johnson done, or not, to still be plain old Mr?

Hopefully a man of integrity and said thanks, but no thanks. But who knows. Perhaps he made a pass at Camilla.

 

[Barnham Seagull]

Probably a Yes.

IS are not interested in diplomatic discussion there agenda is to destroy non belivers and create anarcy.

They will and are trying to attack us anyway.

The great stupidity was removing the dictators in similar countires and trying to remove Assad IMHO. These states as we call them are full of disperate groups and factions all hell bent in being dominant in their regions and wiping out others only strong dictators kept them under control.

Yes Saddam, Gidaffi, Assad and co are horrible people but are they better than what is now there? Quite possibly I would think.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Alan Johnson making some excellent points! Would make a good leadership candidate assuming a vacancy arises in the near future.

 

[Titanic]

"I wish I had the moral certitude of the finger-jabbing representatives of our new and kinder politics" - Alan Johnson

 

[Barnham Seagull]

Alan Johnson making some excellent points! Would make a good leadership candidate assuming a vacancy arises in the near future.

Indeed, might not win an election but would form an effective opposition and put Labour on the recovery path.

 

[Mackenzie]

Alan Johnson making some excellent points! Would make a good leadership candidate assuming a vacancy arises in the near future.

...I don't think you need to assume too much.....

 

[Albumen]

In September 2004, Prime Minister Tony Blair appointed Johnson to the Cabinet as Secretary of State for Work and Pensions after the resignation of Andrew Smith. Following the 2005 election Johnson was initially announced on 6 May 2005 as being "Secretary of State for Productivity, Energy and Industry", but after just a week, on 13 May, it was declared that the new title would not be used, after widespread derision of the new name, because the abbreviation for Johnson's title, Productivity, Energy and Industry Secretary, would have been "PENIS".[9] The department's old name was kept.
Shame, the Blairite showing his colours in the debate there.

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

Alan Johnson making some excellent points! Would make a good leadership candidate assuming a vacancy arises in the near future.

Excellent first autobiography. I have not read the follow-up.

Very interesting chap.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Indeed, might not win an election but would form an effective opposition and put Labour on the recovery path.

Unfortunately for Labour their membership would rather vote for someone like Abbott than Johnson

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Excellent first autobiography. I have not read the follow-up.

Very interesting chap.

Wasn't he a postman ?

 

[Albumen]

Surely if the Chair of the Defence Commitee is against it, it's probably not a good thing.

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

Wasn't he a postman ?

Yep. Grew up in Notting Hill - his mother was Liverpool and married a ne'er do well who left the family home and his mother tried to keep up appearances before her early death. Social services allowed his older sister to effectively look after him from early teens. She was a hero.

A well balanced-rounded chap. Should have been Labour leader.

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

Surely if the Chair of the Defence Commitee is against it, it's probably not a good thing.

Interesting equating the Iraq "dodgy dossiers" to the Syrian "70,000" ground troops. That struck a chord.

 

[Albumen]

Yvette still pissed off losing to Corbyn.

 

[Titanic]

Behind you!

Yvette Cooper does not look happy.

Sourface is up now...sounds like she can be added to the list...

 

[AlbionPics&SouthCoastTwit]

But I do not view the long term complexity as a reason not to do all we can militarily to disrupt and degrade IS in the shorter term. There is no logic in bombing in Iraq but not Syria where the main threat is based.

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[spring hall convert]

Alan Johnson making some excellent points! Would make a good leadership candidate assuming a vacancy arises in the near future.

I'm very, very fond of Alan Johnson. Former home secretary as well. Very fair man from what I've seen.

Isn't he a bit 'everyone's favourite uncle' though?

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

Isn't he a bit 'everyone's favourite uncle' though.

Is that a bad thing ?