Would you change your referendum vote?

[Uncle Buck]

Except that...

We didn't SAVE Germany did we?
Or Italy?
Or Hungary?
Or Bulgaria?
Or Finland?
Nor did we defeat those nations, on our own. Other European countries made equally big sacrifices.
And it ignores the decisive American contribution
And the Polish airmen and thousands of Irishmen and other European nationals who fought in our armed forces.

Apart from all that, excellent point.

Those Poles that we entered the war to defend, tell me what happened to them in 1945...

 

[marshy68]

I voted LEAVE; I'm very pleased I did; I would do the same again.

The FTSE 100 is back almost to where it was last Thursday. The £ is recovering. So much for all the doom-mongers.

As for £350m more going to the NHS. The organisation needs to control its current costs, not be given even more money to fritter away.

And does anyone really believe that Scotland or Northern Ireland will leave the UK so that they can be controlled by a bunch of unelected bureaucrats in Brussels?

Yes I do and certainly Scotland will leave the UK if that's what it takes. Apparently the 350 million promised to the NHS was lie.... nice one.

I voted remain and would do again.

 

[Lincoln Imp]

those selfish pensioners have had to put up with the shite from Europe since they tried to federalise it it ratherthan leave it as a trading group
I suspect that others seen one of the European masters yesterday complaining that they will not wait until the tories have chosen another leader, but did'nt mind waiting until we saved their arses in two world wars losing two generations of our young men
so whose the selfish ones there then

Don't be so ludicrously aggressive.

 

[Albion my Albion]

And it ignores the decisive American contribution

I've been told many Americans joined the RAF before Washington stopped pretending they were neutral for diplomatic reasons.

 

[Seagull58]

I voted LEAVE; I'm very pleased I did; I would do the same again.

The FTSE 100 is back almost to where it was last Thursday. The £ is recovering. So much for all the doom-mongers.

As for £350m more going to the NHS. The organisation needs to control its current costs, not be given even more money to fritter away.

And does anyone really believe that Scotland or Northern Ireland will leave the UK so that they can be controlled by a bunch of unelected bureaucrats in Brussels?

It is above where it was last Thursday when the market closed.

 

[Lincoln Imp]

I didnt vote because I do not think that either side gave sufficient definitive information of how it would affect us either way. In the light of the information available now it would definitely be remain.

What information is available now that wasn't before?

 

[Uncle Buck]

It is above where it was last Thursday when the market closed.

It is and will probably stabilise until the point where we might invoke Article 50. Then the whole thing will go mental.

 

[Seagull58]

FTSE is a global index with foreign earnings, doesn't really represent the UK

The FTSE 250 is up 3.22% today and down 1.5% on Thursday.

 

[Seagull58]

It is and will probably stabilise until the point where we might invoke Article 50. Then the whole thing will go mental.

I don't think so but what is your definition of "mental"?

 

[BBassic]

Voted Remain, would vote Remain again if there was a second referendum but I don't necessarily agree there should be a second one.

The nation spoke and the nation voted out. It's up to us now to navigate through that decision and try to do the best for our country and our children. To continue flipping the coin until it lands heads up flies in the face of democracy.

I would be curious to see, should there be a second referendum, whether the Leave numbers drop off knowing what they know now about the NHS money; not to mention the EU taking an early hard-line stance of " if you want the single market then you have to have freedom of movement " and pretty much drowning out the "take back our borders" war-cry.

I understand both of the above were primary motivators for some of those who voted to leave and if both of those have now been found to be utter toss I wonder if that would change people's minds.

 

[Uncle Buck]

I don't think so but what is your definition of "mental"?

The technical term is 'the arse will probably fall out of it'.

 

[Seagull58]

The technical term is 'the arse will probably fall out of it'.

10%, 20%, 40%, 80%?

 

[Uncle Buck]

10%, 20%, 40%, 80%?

That I do not know, but as a few percent equates to billions, enough to more than inconvenience people.

 

[AmexRuislip]

In the immortal words:
'You may tell them all we stand or fall'

I voted out and that is what I standing with!

 

[Easy 10]

As for £350m more going to the NHS. The organisation needs to control its current costs, not be given even more money to fritter away.

Without derailing the thread, this is a valid point. The NHS is a humungus cashcow, a top-heavy trough awash with cash for middle-to-senior management and penpushers. What they spend on recruiting and then paying these parasites in wages, bonuses and pension schemes is absolutely mindboggling. If 1/10th of those funds was diverted to the doctors, nurses and to front line services, there would never be any such thing as an NHS crisis.

 

[Uncle Buck]

Without derailing the thread, this is a valid point. The NHS is a humungus cashcow, a top-heavy trough awash with cash for middle-to-senior management and penpushers. What they spend on recruiting and then paying these parasites in wages, bonuses and pension schemes is absolutely mindboggling. If 1/10th of those funds was diverted to the nurses and to front line services, there would never be any such thing as an NHS crisis.

But it is also easy point scoring in any election to say we are going to support / pump money into etc.

They hardly ever do though.

 

[pasty]

Was remain and would stay remain. And although not advocating a second vote, I firmly believe a second vote return a remain result, quite possibly with a greater margin than 52/48

 

[Seagull58]

That I do not know, but as a few percent equates to billions, enough to more than inconvenience people.

Ah, but it doesn't equate to billions in anyone's pension pot or investment portfolio, does it?
We will see what happens.

 

[alfredmizen]

Except that...

We didn't SAVE Germany did we?
Or Italy?
Or Hungary?
Or Bulgaria?
Or Finland?
Nor did we defeat those nations, on our own. Other European countries made equally big sacrifices.
And it ignores the decisive American contribution
And the Polish airmen and thousands of Irishmen and other European nationals who fought in our armed forces.

Apart from all that, excellent point.

I'd be interested to know which European countries you consider made ''Equally big sacrifices '' ?

 

[Easy 10]

But it is also easy point scoring in any election to say we are going to support / pump money into etc.

They hardly ever do though.

They wouldn't even need to if our money was actually being diverted to where it needs to be, rather than straight into the pockets of an army of execs and senior managers.