Will Tony Bloom allow gus to spend his millions this summer.

[Jim in the West]

But Tony's two 5 quid each way bets on the National lost.

A friend says not only is Vicente going to Reading but Tony is now potless.

Is that the same TB who is forking out for the extra seats and the training ground?

 

[upthealbion1970]

We needed to spend to be able to compete at this level, money was spent and we have been competitive. Money will be spent in the summer to make us more competitive and I'm 100% certain we will be more competitive next season.

 

[ozzygull]

But the entire team apart from el-abd has been acquired by Guss. So considering where we have come from since he took over, he can't be that bad.

 

[Jim in the West]

We needed to spend to be able to compete at this level, money was spent and we have been competitive. Money will be spent in the summer to make us more competitive and I'm 100% certain we will be more competitive next season.

Correct!

 

[Horton's halftime iceberg]

Tony has spent loads of his money on infrstructure, the budget will be about the same as last year, any manager including Gus will have to work to said budget.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

But the entire team apart from el-abd has been acquired by Guss. So considering where we have come from since he took over, he can't be that bad.

Elphick is from the youth as is Dunk & JFC. Navarro & Dicker were from Slade's team, but your point is still valid.

 

[DIFFBROOK]

Can't argue against your facts, Gus must have thrown the game. If I were Saints I would be furious.

Before the apologists go "oh just another long Gus bashing thread" or remind us where we were two years ago, just look at yesterday.

There's no doubt that we have money to spend this summer, but look at how wisely Gus used that money last summer in relation to his sqaud.

Now, West Ham was probably our most important game of the season, the biggest MUST WIN game we had this season and Gus' top signings thus follows

Record Signing Hoskins 500k - Out of Loan
Next Record Signing Buckley £1m - Not in squad/Dropped
Next Record broke CMS £3.25 if he decides to hang around if not £2.5m - On Bench
LuaLua Rumoured at £1m plus - On Bench
Noone Turn down over £1m bid - On Bench

Starting line up total cost £250,000
Bench/not picked cost - Over £6,000,000

They are the type of figures you see in the paper around FA Cup round 3 time, when the non leaguers take on a bigger club

IT WAS A MUST WIN GAME. Most important game of the season

WE LOST 6-0 and can be grateful it wasn't more

Pretend you are the chairman

Your manager does not fail to mention in nearly every interview the budget of the club

You allow manager to spend £6m (which is incredible for a club like us) of your money and in a must win game the team that starts costs £250k and the bench costs around 25 times that and you lose 6-0

Would you as chairman not be a little pissed off. Would allow the manager to splash your cash again, when clearly he hasn't brought players he can use in his system the first time around??

 

[The Large One]

Just wondering, with all these figures from pre-season being banded about - including a few wild doses of speculation - would we be bemoaning this issue if those players only cost half of what they did? Would it be relevant?

The cost of the players is secondary to what they bring to the squad as a whole. Was Glenn Murray four times better than Nicky Forster, for example?

I'm just wondering if Tony is rolling his eyes, getting angry and demanding more, more, more because of the figures mentioned. Or do him and Gus have the relationship for which costs are not an interfering factor?

 

[CliveWalkerWingWizard]

Spending money on players is not a huge problem as long as they are still a saleable asset. CMS, Lua Lua, Hoskins and Buckley could all still command a transfer fee close to that which we paid for them. If we sold CMS for 1.5M it would not be a huge loss. I think there will be some selling to bring in new players - in the long term it is not transfer fees which cripple clubs it is long term contracts of stupid wages. look at Pompey.

 

[peterward]

Nobody has mentioned the 2 argies, Sandaza, or money paid for Chris Holroyd,

and then there is Mr Ryan Harley...... 250k well spent?

Maybe Gus, as much as I love him, is a top coach but not so adept in the market

 

[horshamseagull11]

I have no doubt gus is the best coach in this league and but his transfer policy isn't so desirable. he has made some decent signings Lua Lua Buckley young talented bargains at around 1m. cms well we can only be dissapointed however i still think he would bang in the goals in the championship in the right team. you have to feel sorry for the guy really. Hoskins seems more of a hairdresser than a footballer to me but good luck to him. Noone is skillfull but to small and to weak at present. The fact is everyone makes mistakes. I think gus will receive a simular budget this summer lets hope he spends more wisely! Was Blackpools budget higher than ours? how much did Vaz te cost wast ham?

 

[GingerBeerMan]

Poyet aims to leave loans alone From The Argus)

haha fail.

 

[HawkTheSeagull]

Didnt we get that guy from Southampton who deals with scouting (or whatever his role is) ? Think he came to us in January so his contacts could be useful come Summer.

You have made some good points [MENTION=894]Mr Burns[/MENTION] and i think most are confused with his team selections (but hey, we dont work with the players everyday). If i was TB id want extensive scouting done on players being looked at and try to get the best possible players for the lowest cost to the club.

Should also remember, topics have been posted about the players who could get sold, we could get some money from them as well, which in turn could be used.

 

[B.W.]

Gus picked the wrong team yesterday, then brought on good subs, but for the wrong players... Navs and Dicker were both awful in yesterday's game and should have gone off when CMS and Kaz came on... we were 3-0 down FFS Gus...

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

The money spent on players was supposed to turn us into a challenging top 8 team in the Championship although TB was hopeful of a top 6 finish. Remember the last time we were in the Championship ? , we must have had the lowest playing budget of 24 teams.

 

[Mr Burns]

Just wondering, with all these figures from pre-season being banded about - including a few wild doses of speculation - would we be bemoaning this issue if those players only cost half of what they did? Would it be relevant?

The cost of the players is secondary to what they bring to the squad as a whole. Was Glenn Murray four times better than Nicky Forster, for example?

I'm just wondering if Tony is rolling his eyes, getting angry and demanding more, more, more because of the figures mentioned. Or do him and Gus have the relationship for which costs are not an interfering factor?

No chairman has a relationshp with a manager where costs are not a factor.

But I am positive that as Bloom has allowed Poyet to spend huge cash, certainly huge cash for us, will to be wondering why none of them were demmed good enough to start the most important game of the season for us yesterday.

 

[Mr Burns]

Of course if the players purchased are not up to it, it must be those League 1 players that have got us up the table to challenge for the play off positions. Then of course I read elsewhere that they are not up to it and must go. What is right ? Who has got us up the table and challenging for the play offs ? What about Vincente ? He seems a good acquisition with Tony's funds. I think yesterday was more a question of team selection.

Off course yesterday was about team selection and tactics. The players we had here are good enough, as a few weeks ago we were 4th.

It's all about Gus' team selections and lack of ability to change tactics when needed.

The fact NONE of his top signings started yesterday, even though they were all available, suggests Poyet is not capable of signing players for his way of playing.

CMS, Buckley, LuaLua, would get in most championship sides. We have them for a game against a side struggling at home and losing form, and after seeing us in most peoples opinion dominate the league leaders, he drops two of them, plays a side that most people were moaning about before kick off, and we are 3 nil down in ten minutes, and feling lucky it wasn't 5!

 

[El Presidente]

It's amazing how many experts there are in hindsight. When we signed Buckley, Hoskins and CMS we were creaming ourselves, and I cannot recall any comments about overpaying for any of the players.

Anyone who saw CMS or Hoskins last season against us would have been salivating at the thought of them in the stripes this season. Buckley always looks good, but has proven to be injury prone.

 

[El Presidente]

Off course yesterday was about team selection and tactics. The players we had here are good enough, as a few weeks ago we were 4th.

It's all about Gus' team selections and lack of ability to change tactics when needed.

The fact NONE of his top signings started yesterday, even though they were all available, suggests Poyet is not capable of signing players for his way of playing.

5!

You are being very selective in your figures though. A few weeks earlier than that we were 16th.

Buckley has hamstrings that are made out of paper mâché from what I can make out. Hoskins was never fit during pre season and has paid the price for it.

 

[The Large One]

No chairman has a relationshp with a manager where costs are not a factor.

But I am positive that as Bloom has allowed Poyet to spend huge cash, certainly huge cash for us, will to be wondering why none of them were demmed good enough to start the most important game of the season for us yesterday.

I didn't say whether they were a factor. Of course they are. I'm wondering the extent to which they are an interfering factor. This is the first season of 'big spending'. Other clubs have had that for years at the level we haven't managed to attain previously - so we have started from further back. And it is huge cash for us - but not the kind of cash needed to be a full-blown challenger for promotion.

Important for you, possibly. Important for West Ham, certainly.

Important for Gus? Doubt it - can't see it myself. Nor are the next three, aside from the old mantra of 'the next game is the most important'. He seemed totally relaxed about the whole play-off push thing - not a man desperate to get there at whatever cost this season. He knows there's always next season, and if the improvement of the past couple of seasons continues, we'll be there again, better prepared, and hopefully physically stronger.