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[Albion] Will Cardiff win their last two games?

Will Cardiff win both their remaining games?

  • Yes, yes they will

    Votes: 42 9.2%
  • No, no they won't

    Votes: 415 90.8%

  • Total voters
    457
  • Poll closed .


nwgull

Well-known member
Jul 25, 2003
13,803
Manchester
Yes - plenty of people decided they're shit because they lost 2-0 to Man City. There are so many different levels of shit.

This. The only teams to beat Utd at Old Trafford this year have been City, PSG and Barca.

For what it's worth, Betfair Sportsbook now offfering 13-8 and 19-1 on Cardiff for each game - that returns £52.50 per pound if you do a double.
 




Not Andy Naylor

Well-known member
Dec 12, 2007
8,798
Seven Dials
I don't really understand odds and stuff but even so it seems curious that we are 20-1 to go down but the two results that MUST happen to make it so are a combined 47-1. Are the bookies saying that we are twice as likely to get a win or two draws against Arsenal and Citeh as Cardiff are to beat a Palace team who could be on the beach and one of the worst Manchester United teams for years? Remarkable.
 


Diablo

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Sep 22, 2014
4,200
lewes
Will Cardiff win both their remaining games ?

Simple question to answer. No one knows. We will only know after they have played them !!
 




nwgull

Well-known member
Jul 25, 2003
13,803
Manchester
I don't really understand odds and stuff but even so it seems curious that we are 20-1 to go down but the two results that MUST happen to make it so are a combined 47-1. Are the bookies saying that we are twice as likely to get a win or two draws against Arsenal and Citeh as Cardiff are to beat a Palace team who could be on the beach and one of the worst Manchester United teams for years? Remarkable.

No, it's just a peculiarity of the betting market in that you can effectively get odds of around 50-1, if you exclude the scenario where both finish on 35 points and we concede our 14 goal difference over Cardiff. There’s actually a few easy quid to be made seeing as you can get Cardiff to be relegated at 1-25.

Betting markets have us at 8-1 best odds to beat Arse, so that's effectively saying it's 6x more likely to happen than Cardiff are to win their next 2 games.
 
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BNthree

Plastic JCL
Sep 14, 2016
10,947
WeHo
Just posted this in a different thread but from today's Telegraph football weekly email:

When the fixture list for this season was drawn up last summer, eyes at Cardiff City, probably aware the team would end up battling the drop, will have turned to their final few games.

A home game against Crystal Palace on the season's penultimate weekend might not have jumped out, but perhaps it should have. Was Cardiff's fate already sealed?Crystal Palace, it seems, are the team to avoid late in the season. In each of the last three seasons, they have confirmed another team's relegation, and Cardiff could become their latest victims on Saturday evening.Palace have already sent Huddersfield down this season with a 2-0 win at the end of March, while they also relegated Stoke last May and Hull the season before.That's three of the last six teams to have been relegated from the Premier League sent down by Crystal Palace. They are officially the Premier League's Grim Reapers.

Over the last 10 seasons, no team has relegated more than three teams, yet Palace can make it four in just three seasons if they beat Cardiff this weekend.

Neil Warnock has done a brilliant job in making Cardiff competitive in the top flight, even if it has been a rather basic approach to football that his team have relied on. They play direct football, and there is a huge emphasis on set-pieces. Long throw specialist Sean Morrison spent a colossal eight minutes 15 seconds taking throw-ins in a single game against Burnley earlier this season.Palace may not be the perfect opponents for Cardiff. They have only conceded five headed goals all season - the second-fewest in the Premier League, behind Liverpool.Even if Cardiff do get a result against Palace (and Brighton don't beat Arsenal on Sunday, a result that would also relegate Cardiff), there could be further trouble ahead. Cardiff face Manchester United in their final game of the season.

United are level with Palace in the Grim Reaper rankings, having also subjected three teams to the drop in the last decade. This looks ominously like the end of the road for Warnock's overachievers.
 








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