spring hall convert
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Because then the West would be less able to play the Arab states off against each other to get cheaper oil.
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Why don't Islamic State just move in with Saudi Arabia ?
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Chicken Runner61
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I'm not sure Islam forbids alcohol, more like it says don't turn up at mosque drunk - its just some have perverted the religion to say its forbidden.
grummitts gloves
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NSC does some weird things sometimes! Now got a banner at the top of my screen advertising Muslim brides!!
maltaseagull
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Quran 5:90 - O you who believe! Intoxicants (all kinds of alcoholic drinks), gambling, arrows for seeking luck or decision - are an abomination of Shaitan's (Satan) handiwork. So avoid (strictly all) that (abomination) in order that you may be successful.
Hmmm, go for the one with the nicest eyes, that's all you can go on really.
Freddie Goodwin.
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I once saw 3 Muslim girls, all in black but without the face veil, coming out of Anne Summers. Now, when i see one I wonder what they have on beneath.
Not Andy Naylor
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How can anyone even be sure it was a woman under that burqa?
daveinprague
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Always depends on what sort of burkha...they are not all the same.
In the north east province of Saudi, i saw women with leather face coverings.
In Al Khobar, the veils were often completely sheer (making you realise just how beautiful some Saudi women are)...
In the north east province of Saudi, i saw women with leather face coverings.
In Al Khobar, the veils were often completely sheer (making you realise just how beautiful some Saudi women are)...
daveinprague
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leather for the adventurist i think...
grummitts gloves
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Oooh leather! The little minxes x
Chicken Runner61
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But thats a wrong interpretation - Heaven is quoted as having rivers of wine so that would almost certainly mean alcohol can be taken on earth.
that the righteous have been promised with rivers of pure water, and rivers of milk whose taste does not change, and rivers of wine that are delicious for the drinkers, and rivers of strained honey, and for them in it are all kinds of fruits, and a forgiveness from their Lord; like that of those who abide in the Fire, and are given to drink boiling water that cuts-up their intestines?" (47:15)
The Quran is more concerned that you shouldn't go to prayer intoxicated, you are supposed to have washed yourself and you certainly should not have had sex before prayer.
"O you who believe, do not approach the Salat while you are intoxicated, until you know what you are saying. Nor if you have had intercourse, unless travelling, until you bathe. And if you are ill, or traveling, or one of you has excreted feces, or you had sexual contact with the women, and could not find water, then you shall select from the clean soil; you shall wipe your faces and hands. God is Pardoning, Forgiving." (4:43)
And that translation is a misquote and the true verse almost certainly should be
"O you who believe, intoxicants, and gambling, and sacraments, and fortunes are foul tools used by the devil. You shall avoid him so that you may be successful." (5:90)
Its more about treating alcohol with caution so the devil does not lead you astray