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who is your 'other' team at the world cup?



the wanderbus

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Easy, you can play for the country of your birth & no other. of course we would never have had John Barnes which makes me think this revolutionary idea should have been brought in years ago
 




Oct 25, 2003
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what if you were born in, say, scotland but moved to england the day after you were born?


you were born in scotland but are basically english AINTCHA?
 


the wanderbus

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tommy boy said:
what if you were born in, say, scotland but moved to england the day after you were born?


you were born in scotland but are basically english AINTCHA?
No
 




the wanderbus

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1. nationality n. (100%)
the status of belonging to a particular nation.
(From The Concise Oxford English Dictionary in English Dictionaries & Thesauruses)
a particular nation - the one your born in I would think
 






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enigma

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the wanderbus said:
Easy, you can play for the country of your birth & no other. of course we would never have had John Barnes which makes me think this revolutionary idea should have been brought in years ago

I know a few English people that were born abroad though, through no choice of their own, thats a ridiculous argument in my eyes.

Perhaps players should be forced to commit to one nation as early as possible, whichever nations they are eligible for.
 


Billy the Fish

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Oct 18, 2005
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the wanderbus said:
For me thats the only option, this supporting a second team at any level is just bollocks if your born in England your English & support England , end of story. You cant be 1/2 this natinality & 1/2 that nationality either,not unless you mum had one leg in each country when you were born.
Seconded :clap:
 




Kinky Gerbil

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Jul 16, 2003
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enigma said:
Very true... There should be something in place to prevent that, although I dont know what they could do.

Bring in a rule stating you have you have been in ten previous squads to be llowed to go to the world cup or something like that?
 




Blackadder

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Jul 6, 2003
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Poland for Me

(Its in the blood).
 




Man of Harveys

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Jul 9, 2003
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I'm half-German, half-British. Support England and Germany in about equal measure these days, although being here, know a lot more about England than the German side - no hint of glory-hunting there at the moment! Hope both do well and, more than anything, hope there's not too much trouble. Can't wait for it all.
 


McShane79

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Oct 20, 2005
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Other team?? I can understand in club football if someone supports a lower division or conference side that also follows one of the big boys in the Prem, but we are ENGLAND! COME ON!!!
 


the wanderbus

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enigma said:
I know a few English people that were born abroad though, through no choice of their own, thats a ridiculous argument in my eyes.

Perhaps players should be forced to commit to one nation as early as possible, whichever nations they are eligible for.

Obviously there are exeptions,such as children of serving forces born abroad ect, but you need a reasonably solid rule to stop this "pick a country any country" mentality that exists now.Your second point is an idea that could well work.It's a bit unfair when the players of Trinidad & Tobago have done all the hard work in qualifying only for some english born premiership/championship footballer with tenuous links to threaten their place because he's not good enough for his birth country
 




jonny.rainbow

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the wanderbus said:
if your born in England your English (sic)

Not true.

If you have a blood parent who is a national of another country, you are also deemed a national of that country, as well as a national of the country you are born in.

All that aside I don't have a 2nd team either, although England are always good entertainment in the World Cup.

:lolol:
 


Man of Harveys

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jonny.rainbow said:
Not true.

If you have a blood parent who is a national of another country, you are also deemed a national of that country, as well as a national of the country you are born in.

Is that true? I didn't think that was officially the case - thank god, otherwise I'd have been doing national service in the Bundeswehr? I think it varies from country to country.

Anyway, when it comes to something like choosing a football team to follow, it's very much about where your head and heart are are as much it's about anything official or even in the blood, I'd say.

If you go somewhere and don't feel like you're abroad there because you have as strong an affinity to it as you do to your "home" country, well, then your part of that country too, IMHO. That's how I feel anyway.
 


jonny.rainbow

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Oct 29, 2005
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Man of Harveys said:
Is that true? I didn't think that was officially the case - thank god, otherwise I'd have been doing national service in the Bundeswehr? I think it varies from country to country.

I know it's the case for England and Ireland from personal experience.

On the national service angle. I went to Uni with a guy who was born in Canada, but had an Italian father. He was called up to do national service (which he skipped) even though he'd never lived in Italy.
 


Deportivo Seagull

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Jul 22, 2003
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Albion Dan said:
Half Spanish so Espana for me. Expect the usual second round or quarter final exit yet again from the boys in red.

Snap ....but due to the lack of Galicians (well there's one - Michel Selgado) in the team I won't be too miffed when they go out.
 




Tom Bombadil

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Jul 14, 2003
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Being born in the UK no longer automatically qualifies you for citizenship. To qualify you must have a parent who holds citizenship.
 


the wanderbus

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Voroshilov said:
Being born in the UK no longer automatically qualifies you for citizenship. To qualify you must have a parent who holds citizenship.

Bloody hell, that blows my theory out of the water then!
 


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