- Jul 10, 2003
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define who is in the working class then come back.
simply saying someone who earns average earnings doesn't mean much.
Well that was an interesting contribution - thanks for that
define who is in the working class then come back.
simply saying someone who earns average earnings doesn't mean much.
I'd say none of them. The greens if pushed, but I doubt many of the working classes will vote green as they probably see that as a soft middle class vote.
Bugger, didn't mean to give you a thubs-up! (missed the 'reply with quote' button). Personally I think the Greens are one of the least-sympathetic parties as far as ordinary working people are concerned. They are, with the greatest of respect to their many supporters on here, the party of smug, comfortably-off, middle class twats.
(And yes, having said that I've a good mind to vote personally for Caroline Lucas!)
It helps if you define what the 'British working class' actually is in the 21st century.
I'm not sure what it means these days.
It helps if you define what the 'British working class' actually is in the 21st century.
I'm not sure what it means these days.
define who is in the working class then come back.
Would agree with this, and it is a real shame. The people of Britain really deserve a party that represents the workers of Britain. When I was at University, I was quite active in the National Union of Students, many of the people I know from this period of my life are Labour candidates for 2015. They are the backbone of Labour's young up-and-coming politicians. This is a shame, as some of them have gone straight from Student Unionism to working for the Labour Party and now will become MPs. Don't get me wrong, these are fantastically clever and skilled people. However, how can they represent the workers of Britain when they are themselves career politicians?
Labour, at some point, has lost its' way.
Eh? I shop at Lidl and will probably vote for one or t'other.Just my opinion but:
UKIP - political chancers and a vehicle for Farage's ego and for various failed politicians. People vote for them as a protest.
Tory - The working class that vote for them aren't on minimum wage, zero hour contracts. Their appeal is to the white van man in Rochester.
Labour - they've taken this vote for granted for so long and as a consequence voter apathy is at its very highest amongst the poorest, much to Labour's shame. There are still genuine people who do battle for them but unfortunately they're nowhere near to the top so unable to influence policy. Labour is pretty much the same as the Conservative Party within Parliament - completely out of touch with the electorate.
Lib Dems & Greens appeal to a specific type of voter and it's not the type who shop at Iceland, Lidl or Bright House.
So...I still say none of them.
yes, sorry, i didn't see the Large One had made the same point already.Well that was an interesting contribution - thanks for that
Read Orwell's The Road To Wigan Pier, then come back.
we're not in 1930's anymore. what does working class mean today, have a guess at it, because otherwise we cant really decide if any party represents it. if its relevant or even indeed exists anymore.
Bugger, didn't mean to give you a thubs-up! (missed the 'reply with quote' button). Personally I think the Greens are one of the least-sympathetic parties as far as ordinary working people are concerned. They are, with the greatest of respect to their many supporters on here, the party of smug, comfortably-off, middle class twats.
(And yes, having said that I've a good mind to vote personally for Caroline Lucas!)
Labour, at some point, has lost its' way.
The Greens. They are the only party that claim to be anti austerity.