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[Politics] Which British Prime Minister had the most profund effect on your life?
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nwgull
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Calling someone a gammon isn’t racist. Gammon isn’t a race. White doesn’t equal gammon. I’m white; I’m not gammon.
- Jul 10, 2003
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I'm sorry but I would take issue with that. Nothing Johnson has done so far is economically 'right wing' ( I accept I could still be proved wrong), but everything he has done economically is not 'right wing'. It has been simple blatant popularism with no plan. He has no political philosophy whatsoever other than his 'career'. It's interesting that Blair and Thatcher seem the most 'hated' on this thread but I would take either of them over Johnson every single time.
Whether you agreed with them or not, they had a plan for what they wanted to achieve. Johnson has none of that. He stands for nothing other than himself, and in the meantime, the UK suffers with no benefits whatsoever. Unfortunately, the effects are still someway from being realised.
Baker lite
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Quite the charmer...targeting people because of the colour of their skin.
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- Jul 10, 2003
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FFS you foolish person, it is part of the rich 'British culture' you are always claiming you are so fond of.
It describes someone who uses faux patriotism to cover their complete incompetence in matters of politics. Look it up - Dickens
The time had been, when this burst of enthusiasm would have been cheered to the very echo; but now, the deputation received it with chilling coldness. The general impression seemed to be, that as an explanation of Mr. Gregsbury’s political conduct, it did not enter quite enough into detail; and one gentleman in the rear did not scruple to remark aloud, that, for his purpose, it savoured rather too much of a 'gammon' tendency.
The meaning of that term—gammon,' said Mr. Gregsbury, 'is unknown to me. If it means that I grow a little too fervid, or perhaps even hyperbolical, in extolling my native land, I admit the full justice of the remark. I am proud of this free and happy country. My form dilates, my eye glistens, my breast heaves, my heart swells, my bosom burns, when I call to mind her greatness and her glory.
And, while you have the dictionary open. maybe look up 'Ironic'
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nwgull
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Gammon has nothing to do with skin colour.
Gammons hate being called gammons though, I find.
Baker lite
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Casual racism has no place in a modern,tolerant society. Kindly stop it.
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nwgull
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You're absolutely right. Now go and find out what racism means.
BadFish
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- Oct 19, 2003
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Are they the 'master race?'
I also believe that the gammon also hates people that cry racism at every opportunity.
Must be tough.
Tokyohands
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David bloody Cameron cost me my freedom of life and movement around Europe, thanks a lot!
Baker lite
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KeegansHairPiece
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- Jan 28, 2016
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For a max of 90 days.
Tokyohands
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Wrong. I could've just used my passport until recently but visas are now required to live and work in Europe just in case that small point passed you by.
- Jan 3, 2012
- 16,614
“It is our duty to look after ourselves” seems to me to be encouraging selfishness, irrespective of whether she went on to say something about helping our neighbour as well.
She also used the example of the Good Samaritan somewhat perversely, saying that he wouldn’t have been able to help if he didn’t have money, thereby missing the whole point of the story, which was how remarkable it was that a Samaritan was helping a Jew, when his Samaritanness should probably have told him to finish the Jew off. And the notion that you can’t help people unless you have money, which she may not have said but which she legitimised, is rubbish.
So Thatcher gets my vote for wrecking any social cohesion that pre-existed and encouraging the greed is good attitude.
I was also coincidentally thinking over the weekend about Russia and Gorbachev and corruption, how Thatcher and Reagan refused to support Gorbachev in overseeing the break-up of the USSR and its systems, but instead giving rise to the current east west tension and all the corruption in Russia. Gorbachev was (still is) a decent man and perhaps the world would have been a different place if he had been allowed to carry on.
Thatcher was certainly the worst PM in my lifetime....... until Boris came along with his BREXIT fiasco and his cronyism and his Pandemic decisions leading to so many needless deaths.
Baldseagull
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Lucky for her she had family to help out, I don't think whether someone gets help or not, should just be down to whether they have willing and able family, or not.
Robinjakarta
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Thatcher and Attlee. Easy to tell which one positively and which not.
Baldseagull
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I think this is a good place to mention that the Thatcher practice of defunding and crippling an entity to ensure it fails, to make privatisation more palatable, has not gone away.