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Where is the Anti IS march
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Prettyboyshaw
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Perhaps if it was organised by the leading Muslim Clerics denouncing their action it would possibly put more of joining them and show that they are deluded and not acting on behalf of Islam.
Kalimantan Gull
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Yeah, I think thats spot on. Still, a peace demonstration by muslim communities rejecting ISIS would be a positive thing within the context of our own society, and certainly not totally pointless. Whilst we can't change ISIS' minds in the middle east, we can do more to prevent radicalisation of muslim teenagers and prevent a breakdown of relations between the muslim and christian communities in Britain, and a visible statement of rejection of ISIS by British muslims would be a positive thing.But I'm not going to criticise them for not doing so.
and of course..
There was one in December, one in October 2014 and one in August 2014 from the top few results on Google for Anti-ISIS March. May well be more (there seems to have been one in Liverpool and some in the US).
However, [MENTION=70]Easy 10[/MENTION]'s point is pretty much the point. ISIS denounce anyone who disagrees with them as non-believers and corrupted, no matter how respected of a figure that person is.
However, [MENTION=70]Easy 10[/MENTION]'s point is pretty much the point. ISIS denounce anyone who disagrees with them as non-believers and corrupted, no matter how respected of a figure that person is.
The Albion Roar
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These clerics and community leaders get wheeled out in front of the cameras every time there is an atrocity committed supposedly in the name of Islam, with non-Muslims feeling these leaders need to account for the actions of people who are nothing to do with them.
I'd imagine they're pretty cheesed off (a) for the victims and (b) for feeling that they need to apologise every time one of these attacks takes place.
They condemn the terrorists every single time. Do they need to walk along the street with a placard in order to achieve exactly the same thing - just to please others?
Superphil
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I agree complete but for one thing, the likes of Chowdrey don't condemn it, they praise it, and that also gets reported in the news.
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In Europe, yes, but they are targeted because they are busy areas. They're happy to draw the 'west' in. They see it as an opportunity to recruit. But...
The history of the movement suggests the main war is with other Muslims and their activity in the middle east shows this. Remember, their aim is to establish a caliphate. I don't have the time or patience to explain- except to say that some in the leadership don't even want the activities in the west to become part of the blueprint. There is also evidence to suggest that some of these attacks are merely splinter groups who the main body have little to do with. But, naturally, they are happy to claim responsibility.
topbanana36
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The only ones from what I see who are making a stand against radical islam albeit not to our liking.
Leekbrookgull
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You could be waiting a long time.
The Birdman
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nice to have a banner slagging those Isis terriost off who murder anyone who disagrees with them.
GT49er
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Oh dear, I must have got the wrong sort of TV. Perhaps it is too old to broadcast these apologies?
Well, it wouldn't hurt them to do so, would it? And it wouldn't do any harm either.
After all, there are plenty of people (no names, no pack-drill) who think we should all take to the streets with banners condemning going into Afghanistan after El Quaeda (sp?), kicking Saddam Hussain out of Kuwait, invading Iraq (OK, that was a bad decision), slavery, the crusades and the holocaust (even though we fought against the perpetrators of that).
Tyrone Biggums
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Perhaps its the prophet Muhammad and the messages he left behind is the problem.
It's not like he was a Christ like peaceful Hippy in his words, attitudes and actions.
It's not like he was a Christ like peaceful Hippy in his words, attitudes and actions.
darkwolf666
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The problem is, those that you are rallying against don't care about what would consider to be normal behaviour. They wouldn't care if they were ostracized, they don't care if they blow up women, children or babies, they don't care about anything other then their own twisted sense of right!
Simply put - they don't care!!!
Publius Ovidius
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Can't find much mention of the bombings in Brussels on that site.
Not at all , this is from the SWP after the Paris attacks .
https://www.swp.org.uk/content/after-paris-no-to-racism-and-imperialist-wars
The appalling killings in Paris are horrific. Our sympathy is with the victims and their families and friends.
In these dark times, more than ever, we say refugees welcome here, open the borders.
Publius Ovidius
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Interesting reading the transcript of the Turkish premier's statement about Belgium knowing the bombers as turkey told them about it, but there was no evidence.
This is the crux of the issue. There is a great swell of public opinion , which is certainly understandable, that we should round these radicalised and potentially radicalised people up and jail them. I wonder how the semantics of that would work.? Would the British public, in our liberal society accept a Guantanamo base prison on British soil?
Let's face it as soon as the government announce tapping of the suspected terrorist phones, which may be indiscriminately in its operation and catch little Johnny ******* in his bedroom to pornhub, there is a huge outcry of " eroding our personal liberties"
These people care nothing of our personal freedoms, in fact that is an anathema to them and we are all targets. That is every single person on here, your families, your children, your friends, your neighbours.
How do we defeat it? How do you defeat an idea, a way of life, a belief that your life is not important...remember the Japanese kamikasi in the war were suicide bombers and believed it was honourable to die for the emperor. These people believe they are pleasing a deity by taking as many of us to our deaths and they will be rewarded. How do you possibly persuade these brainwashed people that this is wrong.?
In our society now, we take the risk and building bloody great walls as advocated by trump and his ilk is not the answer.
This is the crux of the issue. There is a great swell of public opinion , which is certainly understandable, that we should round these radicalised and potentially radicalised people up and jail them. I wonder how the semantics of that would work.? Would the British public, in our liberal society accept a Guantanamo base prison on British soil?
Let's face it as soon as the government announce tapping of the suspected terrorist phones, which may be indiscriminately in its operation and catch little Johnny ******* in his bedroom to pornhub, there is a huge outcry of " eroding our personal liberties"
These people care nothing of our personal freedoms, in fact that is an anathema to them and we are all targets. That is every single person on here, your families, your children, your friends, your neighbours.
How do we defeat it? How do you defeat an idea, a way of life, a belief that your life is not important...remember the Japanese kamikasi in the war were suicide bombers and believed it was honourable to die for the emperor. These people believe they are pleasing a deity by taking as many of us to our deaths and they will be rewarded. How do you possibly persuade these brainwashed people that this is wrong.?
In our society now, we take the risk and building bloody great walls as advocated by trump and his ilk is not the answer.
darkwolf666
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You can't - that is the point. They hate us and want us all dead, simple as that! We mean nothing to them and all the innocent people killed are just ashes blowing in the wind.